Class

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I don't understand he class system.
In this day and age I'm really
Not sure about what class I am. I don't care if I'm honest but I'm interested to see what class people think I am.
I know what I think I am but again I'm not really arsed.

We both work. Does that make us working class? Or is their a point where
We/I/he is middle class? Or are
You born into it?

At what point do you change class?
Does you whole family change class?
Or just you?

Search for class on the MN search tool. There have been many threads on the subject.

I know I've read them I still don't get it.

I think it's a load of shit

You're probably quite posh then.

Only those who have class privileges do not see and know it for what it is.

@FuckeryOmbudsman
I'm deffo not posh lol

I'm not sure that it really matters, and as time goes by, it matters even less.

You are however posting opinions from a highly privileged pov, and just laughing when it's pointed out to you.

I'll leave you to enjoy that

@LittleOverwhelmed
I'm not.
I'm just curious.

I'm definitely working class. Proud of it. My parents are. Clad
Means
Nothing to me personally. I'm just interested to see peoples views.

What is the actual difference between middle and working class?

Surely unless you don't have to work then we are all working class

And Even then what is the difference between someone like rylan who will never have to work again or someone who is born "middle class" i just don't get it

Rylan or Jordan or anyone who has done well out of the tv etc for

Rylan would be described as 'new money' financial status doesn't always equal a change in class. For example, footballers like Wayne Rooney wouldn't automatically be considered middle or upper class. Equally an upper class person with a title who has relied on family money (which has now ran out) wouldn't necessarily be considered middle class or working class because their financial situation has changed.

I think you are taking quite a one dimensional view of the Class System. It doesn't sound as though you have read up on your interest. If you agree with the notion its defined on several factors- education, occupation, culture, wealth.
A BBC survey in 2013 found 7 classes.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22007058

If you don't know what class you are then you're probably not working class.

You don't change class. You can change your circumstances and better yourself but for example, the queen moving into a council house and taking a job as a minimum wage care will never make her working class, just the same as me winning the lottery will never make me middle or upper class.

Some people wrongly think having a job means their working class.

Every time this topic comes up there's loads of people who say the calls system doesn't exists in the uk. It very much does. Every body isn't equal. Everybody doesn't have the same start in life and the class you are born into can absolutely shape your future.

Lockdown has shown class is a thing and makes a difference. The Xmas threads have shown the shitty attitudes some people have to those on low incomes. It's everywhere on here lately. I think it can be like men who say they don't see sexism, or when people say racism isn't that bad, people don't notice class when they aren't on the shitty end of the stick.

I disagree to a point @EveryoneHasLostTheGame. While yes the Queen is not going to ever be working class, a working class family can become middle class within a couple generations. My husband's dad was a builder and mother a hairdresser, neither had more than O level (as was) education. But some of their kids did go to uni and a couple became lawyers and one a professor. All of this generation's children went to private schools. I'd say that they are now middle class.

Spencer Matthews can be an example of changing class. His Grandfather was a coal miner from Rotherham. Spencer went to Eton. I'd say Spencer and his family would now be very upper middle class.