Page 2 | DH wants to drop gifts off in tier 4area

Joditaylorfan · 2020-12-21T14:00:40+00:00

We are fortunate enough to be in tier 2. He claims it will be a doorstop, well distanced visit (with 4 households). He also claims that it will be safer than me visiting a supermarket, here. He's pretty determined. Fairly sure he will silk if I absolutely insist he doesn't go, he's grumpy enough and I don't need that. Posting for a handhold really!

Keepdistance · 21/12/2020 15:38

Not allowed into or out of t4 though.

I would say you shouldnt.
However dp dropped off 2 sets of presents last weekend. We were t3 and not supposed to leave. One was and t2.
We wanted to pick stuff up too. I think if i had gone too then there would have been less chance of getting too close etc. Dp just doesnt think. 1 house let the dog out so dp
almost had that.
I think no matter how careful you are you cant account for what the others do. Because 1 family already unwrapped 1 thing that day, the other took stuff in the house that were put in their garage. So transmitting on surfaces definitely could have been an issue. Our kids are at school...
He saw a police car doing speed checks then worried about being fined for leaving t3.
I think generally unexpected things happen. Both our cars have had lights come on suddenly this year. Dp went to the tip and they were still doing numberplates so the guy handed him a leaflet through the window.
Typically we came out of t3 this weekend. However our rates were lower than where he was going anyway.

Realistically some people dont drive.

Genderwitched · 21/12/2020 15:39

Mil and Fil drove over yesterday, we are both tier 4, pilled up outside the house, popped the boot open, and Dh took the present bag out and put ours in.

The kids stood 1m away from the sealed car and I took pictures, the Grans appreciated them and I am sure that they will give us all a laugh in the years to come. It was too late and the presents too heavy to send. I am all for following the rules, and indeed we have, and the Grans are sticklers, so we are comfortable with it.

2020nymph · 21/12/2020 15:48

@Genderwitched

Mil and Fil drove over yesterday, we are both tier 4, pilled up outside the house, popped the boot open, and Dh took the present bag out and put ours in.

The kids stood 1m away from the sealed car and I took pictures, the Grans appreciated them and I am sure that they will give us all a laugh in the years to come. It was too late and the presents too heavy to send. I am all for following the rules, and indeed we have, and the Grans are sticklers, so we are comfortable with it.

My parents want to do this too.

Nowaynothappening · 21/12/2020 15:53

Driving into a tier 4 area and standing on someone’s doorstep is no more of a risk than driving through a tier 2 area and standing on someone’s doorstep.

Honestly the whole tier thing is farcical at this point anyway. Covid is a risk whenever you leave the house wherever that may be pretty much in the world right now.

Meredithgrey1 · 21/12/2020 15:59

The entering/leaving a tier 4 area is "advised against" rather than actually illegal.
And people from tier 4 can meet someone outside for a socially distanced walk, so your DH putting a bag of presents on the driveway, retreating, then waving from a distance at someone who then picks up the bag sounds ok.

sunshineandshowers40 · 21/12/2020 16:04

I would do the same. They gave absolutely no notice. Tier 4 should have been from today to give people a day to finish shopping and drop presents. The queues outside my local post office are ridiculous today.

Kpo58 · 21/12/2020 16:11

As long as he put the presents on the door step and phones the inhabitants when when "safely" back in the car, I can't see there being any risk to him at all.

Backbee · 21/12/2020 16:17

If he only gets out of the car to leave them on the doorstep (I would phone just after parking up and say check the doorstep in one min) then I can't see how he is putting himself at risk. How long is the journey?

Doingitaloneandproud · 21/12/2020 16:19

I would and we are as well, I've dropped my gifts off to family, we're all in tier 4. This was sprung with no notice so I feel no guilt about dropping presents.

nicknamehelp · 21/12/2020 16:29

which bit of don't travel into or out of Tier 4 areas do people not get? Christmas presents can wait if there is ever going to be an end to this we all need to follow the rules simple!

IndecentFeminist · 21/12/2020 16:38

I would do it 🤷

Plonque · 21/12/2020 16:41

Meh, I would have just got on with it instead of starting a thread on mumsnet. You know it's just going to become a bun fight maybe that's exactly why you're doing it

nosswith · 21/12/2020 16:42

Please don't. He could have to stop for something beyond his control, have to get out, end up catching the virus and spread it to you and/or others.

Use the post, let those who were going to have the presents know.

ApocalypseNowt · 21/12/2020 16:48

Any presents should be fired at tier 4 using scud missiles.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 21/12/2020 16:49

Well, I did that earlier today - tier 4 to tier 2. There were literally just a few minutes of very well distanced chat in the front garden - I had purposely limited my coffee intake beforehand so I wouldn’t need to nip in for a wee.

60 miles each way and I was there and back in almost exactly 3 hours - much of that drive fairly slow in horrible murky weather.
As long as it’s carried out like that, I really can’t see the harm.

Plonque · 21/12/2020 16:50

@ApocalypseNowt

Any presents should be fired at tier 4 using scud missiles.

Bluesheep8 · 21/12/2020 16:53

I don't see why people can't just suck it up and do as they are told. I'm getting sick and tired of people posting on here about why it's ok for them to just do as they please, often listing the reasons why it's ok for them to.

Diddlysquatty · 21/12/2020 16:53

We are tier 2 and border tier 4 areas. You know people are going in and out for essential work don’t you? Some people on here are making it sound like they’re annexed with no one allowed in or out
It’s not quite like that is it...
Probably half the people working in the local supermarket here live in the neighbouring tier 4 area

MedusasBadHairDay · 21/12/2020 17:03

I do enjoy the, "oh no its dangerous to see people outside at a distance, go to the post office instead".

I understand the posters who are saying "don't do it, just don't bother with presents until it's all over" more, at least they are consistent.

Rainb0wDrops · 21/12/2020 17:06

Yes really failing to see how post office is less risky than doorstep drop!

Not to mention the cost! I've got mountains of presents for family and posting is just not an option. I will drop my parents presents on their doorstep as they live 5 min drive away (in same tier 4 as me). Other family are further away so will need to wait but if they were closer I would absolutely also do a safe doorstep drop.

Bluesheep8 · 21/12/2020 18:10

Well, I did that earlier today - tier 4 to tier 2.

Which part of "do not leave tier 4 unless for work or an essential journey" isn't clear? As I've said previously, why do some people think the rules don't apply to them? I genuinely do not understand

Iwouldlikesomecake · 21/12/2020 18:25

The reason people don’t follow the tier rules is that they are bullshit. And I am not a covid denier and think broadly speaking people should stick to the rules, but being told with no notice that I should pay a lot of money to ship my family’s presents a five minute drive away? No.

It would be more ‘covid spreading’ and put more pressure on the post to send them, in fact it would probably expose me and others to more contact with other people than me just delivering them myself!! I’m also trying to not use the post unless I have to in order that things from far away can get to those who need them.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 21/12/2020 18:48

On the way back from my tier 4 to tier 2, zero contact, present drop-off earlier, I saw a huge queue outside our local small post office. It didn’t look exactly socially distanced, either.
Would that have been safer than what I did?
I don’t think so.

Megan2018 · 21/12/2020 19:06

@Bluesheep8 I perfectly understand the rules and know they apply to everyone. But the rules are stupid. I’ve been diligently following all the rules since March but have decided for myself that the current tier set up is ridiculous so I’m now making my own decisions.

We aren’t seeing a soul over Christmas, my doorstep present delivery was perfectly safe. The end.

TheChosenTwo · 21/12/2020 19:10

An elderly relative of mine has just gone into tier 4. I am tier 2. I look after him (cleaning, shopping etc) and will be going up to visit on Wednesday and taking Christmas presents etc. They will be alone for Christmas Day as their personal preference but I am their lifeline and he has essentially bubbled with me even though I go to him. I went to him last night and will go up again on Wednesday, I have been going three or four times a week for the last 6 years.
Tier 4 or not, he needs me to assist in his daily living and is pretty essential.
I wouldn’t be going just to give gifts but that’s me, I balance out what I do in my head that if I wasn’t doing it various other agencies would have to be going in there doing it and this way I provide him with human contact and help.