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mustgetabackbone · 2020-12-19T21:54:57+00:00

Might be none of my business but has left me feeling a bit angry! A mum I know (in passing, not friendly with) is a pupil support worker at a local school. I have just come across a horrible racist video posted online in a community group by her husband. I think it’s horribly irresponsible of him to post it (obviously!) but even more so due to his wife’s job. Should I do anything or just ignore and avoid the husband?

Goatscheesewithhoney · 20/12/2020 00:25

Plus the safeguarding lead could already have information that is relevant - and I agree with @sheworkshardforthemoney that it could be relevant and, depending on the content (which OP has not specified) be considered in relation to PREVENT. Where is the harm in mentioning it? Apart from potential embarrassment to the woman involved.

Annoymou5e · 20/12/2020 00:38

@Charcutaria

So a husband sharing a video of say Tommy Robinson talking nonsense, is the same as someone participating in the distribution of child pornography? Really It's not child pornography, it's sexual abuse of children. It's rape and sexual abuse of a child NOT pornography.

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Today 00:05 Goatscheesewithhoney

You’d raise it with the school if you found our her partner was sharing images of child sexual abuse, not just say “well it’s not her”.

The scenario stated the partner was sharing images which would be possession and distribution of indecent images.
She didn’t mention specifically whether those images covered the offence of rape...

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mustgetabackbone · 20/12/2020 00:39

Wow, understood. I won’t be reporting it.

The content wouldn’t be relevant to PREVENT, but more hate speech.

I work in a field where if my husband was to be as stupid to post something like this, and I was linked to him, I would be disciplined, and if made public I think most people would agree with it.

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sheworkshardforthemoney · 20/12/2020 00:41

If the video is that bad and racist it can cause incitement. That in turn can come under prevent.

Not all terrorists are Muslim bombers.

Supremists inciting hatred is a safeguarding and prevent issue

And yes safeguarding can at times be to do with the partner.

I'm not saying this is all the case here but we are told to pass it on to safeguarding lead. And yes your social media can make you come under investigation.

The example we were given was a female teacher losing her temper and punching someone at a 5- a side match. That would be reportable. As would suspect social media but this was from the direct person NOT the partner so I don't know in this case

Sorry people this is the world we live in

sheworkshardforthemoney · 20/12/2020 00:43

@Annoymou5e

how this would come under the Prevent strategy 🤣

Inciting hatred. Terrorism isn't confined to Muslim bombers

Annoymou5e · 20/12/2020 00:47

@mustgetabackbone

Wow, understood. I won’t be reporting it.

The content wouldn’t be relevant to PREVENT, but more hate speech.

I work in a field where if my husband was to be as stupid to post something like this, and I was linked to him, I would be disciplined, and if made public I think most people would agree with it.

Yeah - I think the leap to it being linked to proscribed right wing terrorism is a bit OTT.

Report it to Facebook or whatever SM it was on. If you think it’s a group meeting up or EDL type group he runs etc you could email your local police force I guess and maybe they would put on a intel report?

AccidentallyOnSanta · 20/12/2020 00:51

Report the video to FB.
Make her aware if you wish to.

Annoymou5e · 20/12/2020 00:51

Yes I know all about Terrorism thank you in my day to day job for the last 12 years 🙄 no one said only Muslims were bombers here

Goatscheesewithhoney · 20/12/2020 00:51

I’m certainly not an expert but I have completed level 3 safeguarding training and if this was reported to me I would go to my boss for advice - and I’m confident she she would expect me to do that, not brush it aside and say “well it wasn’t her”. So I don’t think the OP is being silly by asking the question.

Badbackbernie · 20/12/2020 00:56

I wouldn’t report her. Report the post.
My ex posted all kinds of shit. None of it was a reflection on me. It just made me see him as an ignorant bastard as well as a tosser so I left.

But they were not my posts. I had no influence over what he posted.

This report report report culture has got to stop. It’s getting really nasty

Girlyracer · 20/12/2020 01:18

What's the got to do with her? Get a life OP there's more important things to worry about.

GloGirl · 20/12/2020 01:54

How racist is it? Report to the police if its a hate crime.

Smallgoon · 20/12/2020 01:58

Why should it not be reported? Surely this support worker is conflicted in doing a role which requires people not to be racist, whilst gladly being married to a racist...? #confused

Smallgoon · 20/12/2020 02:03

@Goatscheesewithhoney

I’m certainly not an expert but I have completed level 3 safeguarding training and if this was reported to me I would go to my boss for advice - and I’m confident she she would expect me to do that, not brush it aside and say “well it wasn’t her”. So I don’t think the OP is being silly by asking the question.

Agreed.

RainingBatsAndFrogs · 20/12/2020 09:16

Challenge the post as racist
Report it to the Admin
Report to the SM platform

Whether I reported it to safeguarding would depend on whether it was a stupid crass racist meme posted by the hard of thinking, or a vicious, targeted ‘original’ post potentially capable of inciting violence.

sheworkshardforthemoney · 20/12/2020 09:30

@RainingBatsAndFrogs

Challenge the post as racist Report it to the Admin Report to the SM platform

Whether I reported it to safeguarding would depend on whether it was a stupid crass racist meme posted by the hard of thinking, or a vicious, targeted ‘original’ post potentially capable of inciting violence.

Agree

C130 · 20/12/2020 10:31

Is it any wonder there is so much racism in this Country. Some of the responses on here are shocking. Op I would be getting in touch with my local Police about this. This could be classed as a hate crime.

AccidentallyOnSanta · 20/12/2020 10:37

@C130

Is it any wonder there is so much racism in this Country. Some of the responses on here are shocking. Op I would be getting in touch with my local Police about this. This could be classed as a hate crime.

That's because OP was implying she wants to report the wife, who had nothing to do with this.

By all means report the husband, to FB for posting it,have the post taken down, to the police depending on the nature of it, to HIS workplace etc.

C130 · 20/12/2020 10:43

Ok AccidentallyOnSanta, I understand it is not the wife. But yes the husband should be reported.

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mustgetabackbone · 20/12/2020 11:58

I just wanted to gauge opinions.
I didn’t say I was reporting the wife, and I won’t.
What if you found your child’s teachers husband posting stuff like that online. Or your doctors partner, a social workers partner, a mp’s partner. Where does the line get drawn?

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AccidentallyOnSanta · 20/12/2020 12:02

@mustgetabackbone

I just wanted to gauge opinions. I didn’t say I was reporting the wife, and I won’t. What if you found your child’s teachers husband posting stuff like that online. Or your doctors partner, a social workers partner, a mp’s partner. Where does the line get drawn?

You would report the partner if there's something to report.

What someone posts on SM has no bearing on their partner's job or ability to do that job,unless in very particular cases.

I work in a school, I have no fucking idea what OH posts on twitter or whatever and I'm not responsible for it.

Christmashottubintheshed · 20/12/2020 12:04

The thing is she might not even be aware he has posted it, she may disagree entirely with his point of view. She can’t control what he posts on sm, she is a separate person with her own thoughts and feelings and beliefs. If she was posting this stuff herself then that would be different.

Goatscheesewithhoney · 20/12/2020 12:15

@AccidentallyOnSanta - what do think the “particular cases” should be?

If it was racist content aimed particularly towards children do you think it would be a good idea to report it then, or would it be just the same?

If a teachers partner had allegations of child sex abuse made against them, do you think that should be reported to school as a safeguarding issue?

Following some of the logic on here, it shouldn’t be as it isn’t the staff member who has been accused, so why would the school even need to know ?