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What you have which your grandparents couldn't have dreamed of....

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Something4theweekend1 · 18/12/2020 20:58

I read a lot of memoirs from the early half of the 20th Century. In a weird way it always helps when I get lifestyle envy! But I do think of what I have, both materially and lifestyle, that my grandparents would have considered absolute luxury in their childhoods. For context, paternal grandparents born 1920, 1924. Welsh mining family. Maternal grandparents born 1930 and 1932, Northern factory workers. Off top of my head....

  • A profession where I sit in an office warm and dry. Health and safety legislation that wouldn't see me dead of lung disease at 46 (my G Grandad), or deaf in my late 30's (my grandad).
  • Hot running water which would have been a godsend when not spending an hour an evening heating water for a bath you could barely fit into (pit workers)
  • An inside Loo. Something my gran didn't have until she was married.
  • Vaccinations. My grandads sister died of measles at 3 years old.
  • Easy accsess to communication. Not spending 3 years in the army with only intermittent letters to let you know if (my grandad) was still alive.
  • Privacy. My Gran was one of 10 (!) and when she was born they had 2 rooms above a shop. They later moved to a 3 bed house (when I think no.7 was born) and thought it the height of achievement.
  • Education. All 4 of my grandparents where out of education by 14
  • Wine! Even when I was growing up in the 80's wine was considered the preserve of the rich by my grandparents!

There's loads, loads more but I won't go on all night! It just helps me sometimes to get into perspective that my lifestyle, just 2-3 generations ago, would have been considered luxurious.

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Clarabellawilliamson · 18/12/2020 21:02

Don't forget the food! The variety, the amount (the waste!)

BikeRunSki · 18/12/2020 21:04

All of the above, but they sound never have dreamed of living 250 miles away from their parents either.

MrsLebowski · 18/12/2020 21:06

My Gran is still with us and I think the biggest change and the thing she has never really become comfortable with is all the tech we have today. She likes TV and the landline but thats it.

Something4theweekend1 · 18/12/2020 21:07

@Clarabellawilliamson

Don't forget the food! The variety, the amount (the waste!)
Absolutely! When my nan was in her last days in hospital she was still telling us exactly what was in the fridge and worrying about what was going off. She used to tell us stories of when she first saw a banana etc! Everything was simple and bought locally, and NOTHING went to waste
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MrsLebowski · 18/12/2020 21:08

Forgot to say my Gran is 97 so she was born in the 1920s.

Something4theweekend1 · 18/12/2020 21:08

@BikeRunSki

All of the above, but they sound never have dreamed of living 250 miles away from their parents either.
My grandparents did. Grandad was laid off at the end of the war, and could only find work about 120 miles away from the rest of the family.
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yeOldeTrout · 18/12/2020 21:11

Both my grandfathers were born into wealth & well-educated, actually. They married poorer not-so-educated women, but those gals weren't as poor as OP describes.

Two were religious & would have found my a-religious lifestyle deplorable.

They would have liked social media for easily keeping in touch with far away relatives. Is all I got.

Something4theweekend1 · 18/12/2020 21:11

@MrsLebowski

Forgot to say my Gran is 97 so she was born in the 1920s.
Amazing! I lost my nan last year, but used to love listening to her stories when I was a kid. It was like listening to a different world, especially when she talked about the war and going down to air raid shelters in the middle of the night. All seemed very exciting when I was a kid :/
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TotheletterofthelawTHELETTER · 18/12/2020 21:12

My Granda used to think it was bizarre that I would buy bottled water. He couldn’t get his head round it.

Gingernaut · 18/12/2020 21:12

Mains electricity
Hot water from a tap and not from a large kettle over a range or turf fire
Light at a flick of a switch

Something4theweekend1 · 18/12/2020 21:13

@yeOldeTrout

Both my grandfathers were born into wealth & well-educated, actually. They married poorer not-so-educated women, but those gals weren't as poor as OP describes.

Two were religious & would have found my a-religious lifestyle deplorable.

They would have liked social media for easily keeping in touch with far away relatives. Is all I got.

My welsh side were strict Methodist (more great-grandaparents than grandparents). I don't think they'd approve of my drinking habits!
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wherethewildthingis · 18/12/2020 21:14

I grew up in the 80s in a Welsh council house with no central heating or heated water. In winter my sisters and I would spend the day in front of the coal fire under a duvet. Having a bath meant boiling a kettle.
I often think of all the things I have now that would have been unimaginable to me then!
For my grandparents, their life was impaired by poor education and lack of nutrition. All four suffered due to industrial disease or over work.
One area I would say they had it better was not having the pressure of consumerism and social media.

DrMadelineMaxwell · 18/12/2020 21:14

Central heating.
And efficient and affordable fridges and freezers.

One of the first things we did was to knock out the cold shelf that was built into our pantry when we moved into this house, to make room for the tall fridge/freezer in the same alcove.

cheesecrackersandcorona · 18/12/2020 21:15

A women having. Profession and having a career in her own right. Healthcare choices too.

My grandma (born 1912) gave up work when she got married. When she had my mum she had a bladder infection. She thinks she was given a hysterectomy as she never conceived again. I'm not sure about this but I do know she would never query medical advice. She just did what she was told.

PALS would have been totally alien to her.

lovablequalities · 18/12/2020 21:16

Warmth
An education
A car
Pomegranates
Enough to eat at all really

OhLittleBoreOfWhabylon · 18/12/2020 21:18

So many things but I think the top ones would be:
Washing machine and tumble drier
Central heating
Vacuum cleaner
Telephone (as opposed to going to phone box a few streets away)

pinkdragons · 18/12/2020 21:20

The lack of interaction, even communication with family members.

They would be shocked that we barely ever see the family and everyone has moved away from the small town and doesn't really speak to one another much at all. They were heavily involved on the extended family. I hardly know them now.

barbrahunter · 18/12/2020 21:20
  • A fitted kitchen. My grandma had a cooker but no fridge and would have been terrified of my new kitchen with it's sleek work surfaces and integrated equipment.
- A sense of equality in society. I know we have a way to go, but class hierarchy was far more delineated for my Gran's generation. She had a very strong sense of 'knowing one's place' and a deference for anyone she considered of higher status.
Something4theweekend1 · 18/12/2020 21:20

Yes, gran had a coal fire in a 80's welsh council house. And a separate purse she had by the door for when the 'coal man' came. She did by that point have hot water, but I think it was a back boiler behind the fire so I don't know what they did when the fire wasn't lit.
She never in her life had a shower... very suspicious of the idea!

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Something4theweekend1 · 18/12/2020 21:24

@cheesecrackersandcorona

A women having. Profession and having a career in her own right. Healthcare choices too.

My grandma (born 1912) gave up work when she got married. When she had my mum she had a bladder infection. She thinks she was given a hysterectomy as she never conceived again. I'm not sure about this but I do know she would never query medical advice. She just did what she was told.

PALS would have been totally alien to her.

Both my grandma's gave up work on marriage too. My gran met my grandad age 14 in a factory then married as soon as he finished national service. She did later take in sewing for 'pin money', but I think she'd have been worried about what people would say if she actually went out to work.
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cheesecrackersandcorona · 18/12/2020 21:27

Yes having a job wasn't an option for her never never mind a career. Shame as she'd have been brilliant at so many things. grandad was a bit of a prick.

I was putting some flat pack furniture together and he was looking at me (20yo female) like I was a freak show. Not in a way that was encouraging or patronising, but more 'what is the world coming to when women are allowed screwdrivers' type of way. Dickhead.

HarrietSchulenberg · 18/12/2020 21:28

A phone that you can watch telly on.
I remember my great grandma very well and it dawned on me a few years ago that I regularly faster (70mph) than she ever did in her entire life. It also takes me about 5 mins to drive down the same lane that took her an hour to walk down each day.

CMOTDibbler · 18/12/2020 21:28

For all my grandparents, staying at school past 14 and going to university. One grandfather joined the navy at 14 having been orphaned at 11 and having to live with an older brothers family who couldn't afford to keep him. My other grandfather was bought an apprenticeship (you had to pay for the training, no pay at all) by a charity. One grandmother was in service at 14 (you got paid, and someone else kept you, the ideal apparently) and the other was working in a factory.

Even my dad left school at 14, though mums parents moved mountains for their children to stay on at school and two of them went to teacher training college

HeronLanyon · 18/12/2020 21:30

I think all four of my grandparents who died in The 70s and 80s would be most surprised that I have indépendance and financial security without being married or living with my dp.
Secondly that I (and all of us in the U.K.) still have free nhs health care (they all lived in the USA).
My grandmas would be very upset that so much progress for women has been undone, that pay gap is as wide as ever, that male violence against women is as much of a world wide problem as ever etc. One of
My grandmas in partic would be heartbroken about that.

mathanxiety · 18/12/2020 21:30

University degree.
Modern conveniences in the kitchen. Running water, flushing toilets.
Car, phone, TV..

Ability to easily contact relatives and friends in other countries.

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