Scotland bans smacking

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Apparently Wales to follow. I cannot quite believe that smacking is still legal. I hope this is the beginning of more change.

Sorry I can't get the below to work as a link.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/nov/07/scotland-becomes-first-uk-nation-to-ban-smacking-children

Good, with their terrible history of beating children with all sorts of horrible implements I hope they feel some remorse.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tawse

Yes it is shocking that implements were acceptable not so long ago.

I would hope to see parenting classes as part of enforcement. I hope the change comes with additional support for families.

Whilst I agree with you @Gerbilsoup that the historical punishments were absolutely horrific, the point is Scotland have now banned All smacking, England and Ireland have not, Wales has indicated they will follow.

Your post appears to target Scotland as being alone in horrific punishment, yet your article refers to England using the same methods.

Let's hope, as OP said, that all of the UK follows Scotland in this.

Yes I would love to see England follow suit, but I doubt a conservative Government would ever go for that. They won’t want the accusations of “nanny state”. They will be afraid their traditional voters will see it as too liberal or left wing.

@Gerbilsoup going back quite a way there aren't you? Well at least it's a distant memory in Scotland as we've moved on from it... Maybe not so much in other areas unfortunately?

Perhaps @Gerbilsoup is from Scotland in which it is understandable to be thinking particularly about Scottish history as this change is announced. But I hope this isn't a topic where we get caught up in a regional debate.

Sadly even under many years of Labour the government failed to tackle this. It was under Blair we got professionals debating about leaving a mark etc. Quite sickening really.

Just needs some politicians with the balls to do it. Some decisions need to be taken for the good of society, even if it’s likely to be unpopular.
I don’t know why people still defend smacking.

About time all the UK followed their example.

I am not from Scotland but I know some people who as children were beaten with the "tawse" legally in the late twentieth century, how uncivilised is that?

I think so many experienced smacking from parents they love that it is difficult to acknowledge how wrong it is.

But yes, we just need the right politician/s to care enough, take up the cause. I am really hopeful that Scotland and Wales doing it will help generate the drive needed.

What’s the specific history with Scotland and smacking?

Those cases are awful but neither seems to have anything to do with smacking?

I still find it shocking that legislation banning corporal punishment in schools only came in 1987. I remember a teacher showing me "the belt" they still kept one in their desk for years.

@Gerbilsoup alright, we get it, scottish folk are monsters when it comes to beating children Let it go and take your nasty narrative elsewhere.

@Gerbilsoup I really don’t get your point. Both cases were awful but nothing to do with smacking and not exactly unique to Scotland. Unfortunately children are abused and murdered all over the UK (and the world).

I hope the rest of the UK bans smacking as well. It does seem strange that in 2020 smacking would be legal.

Are parents likely to abide by this? I think the law can only be a good thing, but I'd be doubtful that it would have much impact on cases of serious physical abuse.

I can't believe a poster has likened smacking leading to murder and rape of little girl the fuck is wrong with you

I agree with pp who says it will make little difference when it comes to serious physical abuse ( which is illegal anyway), but the casual swipe across the back of the legs from Grandma etc will be legally indefensible as well as morally so.
If it makes someone about to lift a hand to a child stop and think, it’s a good thing.

@Gerbilsoup - WTF?! How has that got anything to do with parents smacking children or not?