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I’m lost - when do we find out who is president?

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Whenismumhome · 06/11/2020 22:46

Is there no official date/time for when the results are officially released and the next US president is announced? I know it’s looking like it’ll be Joe Biden, but when will there be an official announcement to say who it actually is?

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DisgruntledPelican · 07/11/2020 00:01

People can serve two terms (of four years) as president. Doesn’t have to be consecutive. No more than two terms, though. So trump could run again in 2024. Hopefully he’ll die before then.

daisydalrymple · 07/11/2020 00:22

Trump has tried to say postal voting is corrupt. This is Because postal voting has been promoted this time, partly due to Covid, and partly due to ‘minority’ Groups being threatened if they turn up on the day to vote. So trump is now trying to discredit postal votes, claiming that The democrats are now forging votes. When in actual fact It’s just the fact that democrats were more likely all allong to use the postal system.

JovialNickname · 07/11/2020 00:30

Another interesting point is that early Wednesday morning, the American election was in fact called by one of the candidates, and a new president was announced. Donald Trump declared himself the new legitimate president of the United States.

Following this remarkable statement, Twitter, other prominent social media,as well as mainstream US and UK media outlets did not give any weight to that claim and universally proclaimed it as false and without evidence.

I think this is interesting because it shows that more than an announcement of presidency is required. We've had an announcement already, the truth is yet to reveal itself.

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HoldMyLobster · 07/11/2020 02:19

So the first xx% of votes are easy to count.

They've been done in person, gone straight into the machine, and have been tallied.

If you're in a state that is heavily Biden or heavily Trump, then you'll count all of those, and know that there aren't enough votes left to swing the election the other way, then you can declare the winner.

You'll still count the other votes but no one's paying any attention any more because they're not waiting for the results.

Then you get to the votes that are harder to count.

If you're in a state where it could go either way, now you need to start carefully counting all of those votes, and reporting the results.

Postal ballots come in an envelope. You open the envelope, check that the signature on the outside of the envelope matches the person's signature on the DMV rolls.

You check the address and DOB matches what you have on record. Generally you do a lot of checking.

Once you're happy the vote is from a registered voter who hasn't already voted another way, then you smooth out the ballot and it can be fed into a machine and counted.

If there's a problem with the process of going through the machine - eg the paper was damaged - then you have to transfer the results to a new ballot. You need several election watchers to watch you doing this to ensure you're not cheating. You can then put that sheet through the machine.

If some of the info on the ballot is wrong eg DOB put where it should have been today's date, then you will get in touch with the voter and give them time to come in and 'cure' their vote, ie fix any discrepancies.

Some voters will have been sent a postal ballot, but for some reason it wasn't accepted or they lost it or whatever, so instead they come in on Election Day to vote. If they don't have the right ID with them, then they're given a provisional ballot, which they can use to vote.

But that ballot still has to be checked to make sure that the person is really supposed to vote - so they are asked to come into the voting station with ID and anything else the election officials in that state need.

With those provisional ballots they also need to check that the person didn't vote another way eg in another polling station.

Then in some states they allow votes to be counted that arrive after Election Day, as long as the postmark shows that they were posted on or before Election Day. Different states have different deadlines eg Georgia (I think) was today.

Those ballots are important - they're from the military, and overseas voters. Usually they wouldn't matter all that much, but in a swing state they can make the difference.

On top of that, one county in Pennsylvania printed out a batch of ballots that were incorrect, and sent them out. Once they realised, they had to send out new ballots, which left people little time to return them.

On top of that you've got issues with people outside the polling place shouting and screaming, many of them armed.

You've got court cases resulting in random instructions that change on a daily basis.

You've got poll watchers wanting to watch every single thing you do, some of them filming you while you do it.

So... that's why the counting slows down the closer the count gets.

GroundAlmonds · 07/11/2020 02:35

Do you remember the 2000 US election? It won’t be as long as that with any luck. Crossed fingers 🤞🏻

HerRoyalNotness · 07/11/2020 02:57

Great post, thank you @HoldMyLobster

BruceAndNosh · 07/11/2020 03:05

The Electoral College vote is 14th December....

Mummyoflittledragon · 07/11/2020 04:10

We know which way this is going. Just watched Biden’s speech. It was gracious and presidential. Brilliant post Lobster. I didn’t know some of the ballots sent out had errors.

freddosfrogs · 07/11/2020 04:14

@chipsandpeas

how longs a piece of string
Twice as long as half of it.
Topseyt · 07/11/2020 04:22

I'm just finding the whole thing farcical now.

thelegohooverer · 07/11/2020 08:06

The US president is decided by the electoral collage in December and weirdly they don’t have to vote the same way their state did. They usually do, but there could be surprises yet to come.

Sarahandduck18 · 07/11/2020 08:17

Probably Monday when Pennsylvania has had time to count the postal votes that only came in on Friday.

Georgia won’t be known for ages due to a recount.

The others could come in the next day but aren’t enough.

SidneyCasing · 07/11/2020 09:36

This vote is largely irrelevance in terms of who becomes president. The vote in December will decide that. It could still go either way.

daisydalrymple · 07/11/2020 09:42

Holdmylobster brilliant post!

HoldMyLobster · 07/11/2020 21:28

@SidneyCasing

This vote is largely irrelevance in terms of who becomes president. The vote in December will decide that. It could still go either way.
Given that faithless electors have never in US history changed the outcome of an election, I'm confused as to why you'd think the election is 'largely irrelevant' and that it 'could still go either way'.
SidneyCasing · 08/11/2020 08:05

Given that faithless electors have never in US history changed the outcome of an election, I'm confused as to why you'd think the election is 'largely irrelevant' and that it 'could still go either way'.

Hilary Clinton?

wowfudge · 08/11/2020 08:13

@bellagogosdead

I thought it was the 10th December...
Technically that's correct. My understanding is that it's been called by news outlets as Biden's lead is unassailable and while there can be recounts there is nothing to suggest electoral fraud.
terrywynne · 08/11/2020 08:14

Hilary Clinton?

Hilary Clinton had lost the electoral college vote (though she won the popular vote). Yes there were 7 faithless electors (the most since 1948), 5 on the democrat side and 2 republican, but they didn't change the result as Trump was way more than 5 electoral college votes in the lead.

wowfudge · 08/11/2020 08:23

Correction: the electoral college vote is 14 December, my mistake.

HoldMyLobster · 08/11/2020 12:46

@SidneyCasing

Given that faithless electors have never in US history changed the outcome of an election, I'm confused as to why you'd think the election is 'largely irrelevant' and that it 'could still go either way'.

Hilary Clinton?

What about her?
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