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What do other nationalities think of the British

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Baggingarea · 28/10/2020 19:06

For non UK MNers, what are your general impressions of the British?

I was watching a documentary recently and a Spanish man said our houses are all dirty. I'd never heard that before but can see why someone might think that with muddy weather etc etc.

What do you think about us? Promise I won't be offended (no racism/sexism/general bigotry though please). Can't vouch for others though.

OP posts:
Amortentia · 28/10/2020 23:59

I'm Scottish and would never identify myself as British. I've traveled all over the world and always get a great reception from anyone who asks my nationality.

I do think there are some nationalities that get a frosty reception for a variety of reasons and English is one of them. The others are Americans, saw this in parts of South East Asia. Australians weren't popular either.

SheepandCow · 29/10/2020 00:00

Whingeing Poms (they're right).

AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken · 29/10/2020 00:04

"Wide backed women" made me snort 😂

TableFlowerss · 29/10/2020 00:05

Noticed how not many people sat where they’re from, probably because we’d give them a shitter list of what Brits think of their country Grin

I know that Americans often perceive us as having bad teeth, so I assume most of the teenagers get braces, because they all do seem to have beautiful smiles!

I assume it’s free dental care for kids? If so then I find it ironic that they have a health are system that wound turn away people with no insurance (who would potentially die) yet as long as everyone has great teeth, who cares..... priorities and all.

Perhaps I’m misinformed but that’s my perception.

I went to a city in Eastern Europe and it looked so poor. I felt sad for the people living there. I would never have wanted to have an accident and go to hospital there. That’s my limited perception. Perhaps it’s totally wrong but it’s funny how we all perceive things.

XylophoneXavier · 29/10/2020 00:06

@AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken

"Wide backed women" made me snort 😂
It sounds like it should've been Queen's follow-up to "Fat Bottomed Girls". :o
Onjnmoeiejducwoapy · 29/10/2020 00:07

Irish here (live in England though), so sorry it won’t be pleasant!

-cold, arrogant, and distant but very fighty when drunk

-self righteous, think they’re polite but actually sneering at you

-superior and arrogant, ignorant about other people, racist

-not family-centered, untrustworthy

-terrible teeth

-Basically either aristocrats or tattoo-covered football hooligans

-cheat at sport

-obsessed with their past, false sense of position in the world, laughing stock in terms of politics

Schnoopy · 29/10/2020 00:08

This is an utterly horrible thread full of horrible, judgemental people.

timeforanewstart · 29/10/2020 00:09

I think for all those who believe in sterotypes it says more about your character then anything

Figsandcream · 29/10/2020 00:10

Well they all seem to enjoy posting on a UK based website.

Graphista · 29/10/2020 00:10

im still shocked at how British people dont seem to feel the cold. Shorts and flipflops in 18C?!

As a Scot - Yep! That's sunbathing weather! Anything above 10°c is "taps aff" (tops off) weather up here.

As someone who's lived overseas definitely agree Scots are viewed better than English. Not saying that's fair just an observation I fully took advantage of!

From friends/family who aren't British:

Bad teeth

Bad diet eat/sell too much junk! One friend from Europe's at seeing our minuscule fruit and veg aisle in the supermarket as opposed to 2 aisles EACH for crisps, biscuits and sweets!

Don't say what they think

Don't even attempt other languages when in other countries

Too rigid

Bad manners OR overly concerned with manners (different people from different countries)

Dirty houses and habits (mainly they find how we wash our dishes, and having laundry done in the kitchen and "not enough" bathrooms is weird. They also notice [pre covid] a shocking number of homes lacking soap in the bathrooms! Have to say I agree), plus lack of mixer taps in many households which they saw as odd

Graphista · 29/10/2020 00:11

Unless you are Scottish. I get asked with suspicion ‘English?’ when I say ‘Scottish!’ I’m greeted like an old friend this is exactly the experience I had!

I agree the quality of food now is appalling (and about to get much worse!) I'm old enough to remember when markets were just markets and sold good quality fresh produce! Not the "farmers markets" we have now where it's £6 for a small punnet of disappointing organic strawberries!

Most Foreign people I know (inc my partner) speak English as a second language because they had the learn it to get by in life and around the world not because they so much more cultured.

Learning another language generally means you learn another culture too though as language is very much formed and informed by the culture of its native speakers. So by default if you speak more than one language you are more cultured.

I have to say associating football hooliganism with Brits or even English is out of order! Several other countries have also had appalling incidents of football hooliganism. I lived in one part of Europe that was definitely notorious for it yet this was little reported outside of that country! Would love to know how they managed that!

We also always say Brits dont have sex. Suffice to say I was slightly taken aback on my first night out in Britain!

I bet!

The heating thing is down to price! We're totally ripped off there - usually by European owned companies (even if their name makes them sound British owned)

And they have been very friendly and talkative, perhaps I've just been lucky? I'd agree we (Scots) can be stubborn, but also agree friendly and chatty. My ex (half English half welsh) really couldn't get his head around me talking to pretty much anyone! When we first met if we were out shopping or waiting at a train station or in a queue and I chatted away to someone he'd ask afterwards how I knew them! After a few times of asking he in total bewilderment went "so you'll just talk to anyone then? No matter who or where you are?" It was totally alien to him - and he wasn't a Londoner either who can be quite reserved on this, he's from up north in terms of where he grew up mostly (he's also an army brat).

The first time we visited Scotland together he ended up overwhelmed and exhausted by the sheer number of people who would talk to him starting on the train up

We went and visited his parents on the way home and he was like "I'm knackered! I've spent most of the week talking to complete strangers I could barely understand!" This started a conversation with his parents whereupon it became clear his welsh parent totally understood from my/Scots side of things and the English parent was just as bewildered.

But the roundabouts, and the inability to indicate at them, even the insane ones with 4 lanes and 2 mini roundabouts coming out of it...wow!

Don't ever go to Swindon, Milton Keynes or Birmingham! You'll never get out sane!

The Scottish have now got excellent PR in the West of France from my aunt

Well this is what happens isn't it, people stereotype based on limited experience - for good or bad!

Have to agree you cannot get decent rye bread in the Uk believe me I've tried!

@Coldwinds Yes there was a particular show made in Uk but shown in Portugal I think in the aftermath of Madeline McCanns disappearance that made a number of utterly ridiculous and unproven claims re ss and I think made by some sort of cult?

The British education system has an unfounded good reputation point of fact there's no such thing as a "British" education system as the education systems even before devolution were very different in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. Personally having experienced 3 of those I think the English one was pretty shit even in the 70's/80's And is even worse now and that's partly based on assessment by friends who teach in England. It's a mess!

English is the best language

Based on what?! I love English I've studied it to degree level but it's a bastard/cuckoo language with hardly any true Anglo words still in common usage, even grammar rules are borrowed and mauled from other languages! It may be the language spoken in the most countries, but that's mainly due to English colonialism! Closely followed by French (same reason) and then I think either Spanish (same reason again) or Arabic (again colonialism)

Having made colonised subjects adopt your language does not mean that language is "the best" that's an incredibly arrogant and presumptuous statement!

yet most people want to come and live here. again where's your evidence for this? Many of those who migrate or even flee unsafe countries don't only want to come to the Uk, they also want to AND DO go to America, Canada, Australia, Germany, France, Spain...

Such an arrogant unfounded statement

It does amaze me how little British people are taught about their history with Ireland again I suspect you mean ENGLISH! Certainly in Scotland we are well aware of the history and it's taught fairly well in our schools.

As a Scot of irish descent being taught in ENGLISH schools about Ireland and Northern Ireland during the period of the troubles the education was appallingly biased against the Irish, largely inaccurate and VERY little of the history was even covered! The Tudors and William of orange portrayed as "heroic saviours" and the Irish portrayed as "backwards natives" - a stereotype that persists!

I happened to have a Catholic Irish history teacher at one point and he would say "this is the answer you have to give in the exam but the truth is..." plus my own parents/family corrected much of what I was being taught on this. Much of it was plain lies!

From what I hear not much has changed in English education

rorosemary · 29/10/2020 00:11

@Crankley

Well the thread's a bit one sided but that's because the OP only asked for opinions on the British.

Let's even it up a bit. Perhaps those posting their opinions would tell us their home country so we can tell you what we think?

If people would want that, they'd start their own thread. If you can't handle the criticism that the OP asked for, then you might want to stop reading this thread.
timeforanewstart · 29/10/2020 00:12

@Schnoopy yes it has gone that way by some , britain has over 70 million people living within it yet some state that everyone is a certain way , not possible with that many people and with many different cultures

timeforanewstart · 29/10/2020 00:14

@rorosemary why should we not read something when its been posted on a forum ? We don't have to agree and like everything thats posted

timeforanewstart · 29/10/2020 00:15

@rorosemary can you imagine if i started a thread about some other countries and people got quite so personal what would happen ? I would be called xenophobic etc
Lighthearted is fine but some have gone further than that

giantangryrooster · 29/10/2020 00:16

@Crankley

Well the thread's a bit one sided but that's because the OP only asked for opinions on the British.

Let's even it up a bit. Perhaps those posting their opinions would tell us their home country so we can tell you what we think?

These threads often end up this way. You can't take it, but you are happy to give it Confused.

@timeforanewstart agree ugly, dirty etc. has no place, but look at what brits say of the French. It seems historic rivals have always referred to the cleanliness, laziness and women's looks to put down their rivals and apparently it hangs on through the generations, sad as it is.

TableFlowerss · 29/10/2020 00:16

Can’t be that bad though as plenty of people want to come here to live here. Not arrogant it’s the truth. Exactly the reason we’ve got Brexit.

Confused
Graphista · 29/10/2020 00:20

Not arrogant it’s the truth. Exactly the reason we’ve got Brexit.

No we got Brexit because daft people THINK that's true - huge difference

timeforanewstart · 29/10/2020 00:22

@giantangryrooster but if people posted on here comments like that about the french i think the post would be reported
Plenty of people do want to come and live in the uk and visit , lots of young europeans seemed to love london when i lived there , which i used to find strange when they often came from countries with beautiful cities and def better weather

TableFlowerss · 29/10/2020 00:24

@Graphista

Not arrogant it’s the truth. Exactly the reason we’ve got Brexit.

No we got Brexit because daft people THINK that's true - huge difference

Yeah, I seen your above post so I’m not shocked you think that. That’s ok, you’re allowed to Grin

That’s the main reason people voted to leave and voted they did in their millions. Pretty sure they’re not all daft Hmm

Figsandcream · 29/10/2020 00:25

So, in summary, England = bad , everywhere else = good.

grassisjeweled · 29/10/2020 00:27

Very arrogant but also self-deprecating.

Terrible food.

Terrible teeth.

Royalists, everyone of them.

Very snooty and stuck up. Posh even if you are working class.

Think Downton Abbey type set ups still exist. I. E. Homes having electricity.

Incredible sense of humour.

The BBC, the Queen, fish and chips, double decker buses and phone boxes are always mentioned. Then Benny Hill for the comedy. Muse, coldplay, the Beatles, Rolling stones, Queen for music.

David Tennant is always mentioned too.

TableFlowerss · 29/10/2020 00:27

@Figsandcream

So, in summary, England = bad , everywhere else = good.
It would appear so... Confused
BritInAus · 29/10/2020 00:29

I am British, but been in Australia for 15 or so years now. My two observations from Mumsnet that seem very different to Aus are

  1. the amount of houses with shiny grey floral wallpaper/feature walls, shiny looking bed covers and dark floral curtains. Whenever someone posts a link to real estate photos, I think how nobody here decorates like that.

  2. there seem to be a lot of posts on here about people's next door neighbours. noise, parking in the wrong spot, making a noise in the back garden etc. That seems totally strange to me. Here people either seem to be friends or friendly with their neighbours, or just don't really know them. The level of neighbour-angst doesn't seem to exist here.

I assume this is for two reasons - Australians are usually more direct - if someone was parking somewhere inconvenient, most people I know would just know on the door 'Oh hey how are you? Could you move your car up please? it's blocking the drive?' and it'd be done. Nobody would agonise over whether they should ask or not, how they should ask, go online to a forum and ask how exactly they should politely 'hint' that their neighbour should re-park, all whilst fuming. Smile Secondly building density is not the same here - we have alot more space, houses and plots are generally much larger so I guess noise, parking etc is not such a nuisance.

Some other trivial observations on the UK (AKA things I really miss):

  • Bloody great pubs
  • Bloody great pre-packaged sandwiches - what I'd give for an M&S meal deal for lunch
  • Bloody great curry
  • Bloody great telly
grassisjeweled · 29/10/2020 00:30

I can state with absolute certainty that when abroad, say you're Scottish or Irish. Don't admit to being English.

If you want to fool them all, say you're Welsh.