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if you have domestic help how do you 'manage' them

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Junjulaug · 27/10/2020 16:18

Very first world problem. Sorry its long.
We have had nannies and cleaners in the past, and have a recently employed a nanny/housekeeper 2 days a week. As an employer, I'm just rubbish at managing them. I want to be friendly, but don't want to be their friend. I want to be able to tell them when something isn't right a) without upsetting them and b) with what ever the problem is being rectified. Some examples. Our nanny was always late. I highlighted this on more than one occasion, including in writing, but it made no difference. In the end if I needed her at 7.30, I'd ask her to come at 7.15 and pay the for 15 minutes she was late. Once the kids were school age she obviously had a lot of free time during the day. She wouldn't do any non child related domestic work (fair enough), but I often came home and the children hadn't been fed, nor had she made anything in the 6 child free hours she had during the day for me to feed them, so after 11 hours out of the house I'd come home to make food for the kids from scratch.
With respect to our new nanny/house keeper(NHC), last week we had an electrician doing some work at the house. I was WFH. After she had taken the kids to school she tidied up a bit in the kitchen and did a micro clean of the bathroom and then said she couldn't do anything else as the electrician was here. The electrician was in the hallway, landing and utility. She could have hoovered all the other rooms and properly cleaned the kitchen and bathroom and made some food. She said she'd make up the hours later in the week, but I felt like it was our fault for not telling her about the electrician, so said she didn't have to, but she did. But I don't really think it is our fault - the electrician was in 3 rooms, I simply don't see how she couldn't have worked round them, and I didn't feel i could say " do you mind washing the kitchen floor and putting all the bins out and making our dinner". Its become very obvious that cooking isn't her strong point, so we can only ask her to do the simplest of meals. She came with glowing references. We really like her as a person and would like to increase her hours in the new year, but I can only do this if I can 'train' her to do a better job. Have others done this? How? Or is this a lost cause? The other problem is that we live in quite a rural area and it took me months to find her in the first place, so I'm not sure she can be easily replaced, even if I wanted to.
We pay about £3/hr above the going rate. Thanks for reading to the end.

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Paranoidmarvin · 27/10/2020 19:58

I am one of these people. I am a housekeeper. When I first started I did my own thing and then my boss would tell me what she wanted extra , done differently as we went along.
After a while I had a routine that fitted us both. I keep a notepad in the kitchen that I write down what I have done that day and she writes anything she has remembered or wants me to do that she has seen etc etc.

I am always on time. I do my proper hours. I do my job the best I can in the time I have.

This is a person that u are leaving in ur home. You have to be able to trust them and be happy in the knowledge that things will get done when they need to be done or else ur just going for someone to sit around your house all day.

I house sit while they are on holiday. She knows that she can trust me with that.

Onceuponatimethen · 27/10/2020 19:59

I am very similar to you op and over a decade long of nannies and au pairs I never really cracked it!

What did help as pp have said was an excel spreadsheet of jobs to be done on certain days. I sent this by email and printed for her. I asked her to do recipes out of the easy family cook book we have - easy stuff like pasta bakes, lasagne etc.

Sounds like it would be helpful for her to batch cook eg Bolognese sauce once a week, shepherds filling etc and freeze.

Junjulaug · 27/10/2020 20:12

@Paranoidmarvin. We totally trust her, which is one reason I want her to stay and I want us to get to a point where it works.

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Paranoidmarvin · 27/10/2020 20:30

@Junjulaug did I miss how old she was? I do think sometimes she makes a difference. Also. If they don’t have their own houses and Learn how things run in a house

Junjulaug · 27/10/2020 20:42

@Paranoidmarvin she is in her late 40s - with her own house and adult children

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StripeyDeckchair · 27/10/2020 21:48

If you want her to work more hours then first thing you do is sit down & write a list of tasks you expect her to do daily/weekly/fortnightly/monthly
Set out your expectations re meals ie DCs to be fed at 6pm. Cook enough for 2 adults to eat later we like the following kinds of meals [list 15-20 meals]
Be as specific as possible on everything ie dont say clean the bathroom but list exactly what that entails for you, including preferred products to use.

When you discuss longer hours say you want to be clear on expectations and give her the document. Tell her to take it away to read & consider then discuss 2-3 days later.
Then agree extra hours.

Justmuddlingalong · 27/10/2020 22:13

I can't find it now, but did you say she came with great references? Did you check them?

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