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Annual leave rights

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nevernotstruggling · 21/10/2020 18:19

Can you talk me through this?
Manager said to team today 'if x tasks are not done I will consider not authorising AL'

Team very upset.

We are full time employees on ongoing contracts - not temps or anyone on probation. Most of us have been here years.

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Thermo · 21/10/2020 18:22

I think it’s reasonable for some businesses to be honest. They don’t have to authorise particular days if it doesn’t work for the business
www.citizensadvice.org.uk/work/rights-at-work/holidays-and-holiday-pay1/taking-your-paid-holiday/

Lazypuppy · 21/10/2020 18:30

Employers are alloeed to refuse leave and say when leave has to be taken

m0use · 21/10/2020 18:33

Employers are able to dictate when leave is taken for business needs - for instance maintaining correct staffing ratios, or maintaining productivity. If the work required isn't done (particularly if it's time sensitive or has deadlines) fair enough to not allow leave.

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nevernotstruggling · 21/10/2020 19:10

@Thermo thank you for the link that was very helpful.
What I've learned is that leave cannot be revoked without notice.

What was said today alluded to leave not being granted at all. As in 'there are x outstanding tasks therefore I am not allowing any leave'

FYI it's the local authority not a business.

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EmbarrassedUser · 21/10/2020 19:32

It sounds like you’re being treated like children.

nevernotstruggling · 21/10/2020 19:40

Without disclosing the whole thing it's very pressured right now. We are in a new team. Let's say there are 5 experienced workers..3 of us have authorised AL next week. Booked ages ago within the required time frame. We had booked prior to joining the team. The other 2 are self isolating due to covid exposure.
Next week there will be no experienced staff just all the trainees who cannot cover said tasks legally.

I knew this would happen hence I booked my leave back in august!!

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MrsPinkCock · 21/10/2020 20:29

It’s legal, as long as they don’t prevent you from taking it as some point during the leave year.

It’s an exceptionally poor bullying style of management though.

nevernotstruggling · 21/10/2020 20:49

@MrsPinkCock yeh that's kind of what was implied. That AL at all was discretionary. I didn't explain that properly

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ProseccoSupernova · 21/10/2020 21:24

I thought that if they want to cancel annual leave they have to give you the same amount of days notice as the leave you are taking. Eg if you have five days off next week they would have to cancel it five days before, so they are too late.

nevernotstruggling · 21/10/2020 22:23

@ProseccoSupernova that's what I read too

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