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Reception baseline

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Roseboss · 10/10/2020 07:34

Hi ones , my daughter has started reception this September and she has done two baseline test . I am very shocked with her English score which is 15% and her math is 75 percent which is brilliant. I am not sure why the have done these tests when they did not teach the children yet and feeling so disappointed as my daughter is very good at reading spelling phonics and storytelling and I cannot understand why her score is very low for literacy, she might be shy during the test or not confident but I don't know what to do. Is it to early to judge

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fitzbilly · 10/10/2020 07:36

Where are you?

In the UK baselines in reception are usually established through observations and not sister with parents. It's just so the teachers know the children's starting points.

fitzbilly · 10/10/2020 07:36

*shared with parents

ReceptionTA · 10/10/2020 07:41

When you say "test" do you know how the teacher tested the child?

A percentage suggests to me your child has demonstrated they can already do a certain percent of the 40-60 Early Years objectives from
the curriculum, and the teacher has evidence of this.

Are you seeing this report online?

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anniversarywoes · 10/10/2020 07:45

Foundation teacher here. As previous poster has said, how do you know her results? It's not information we share with any of our parents.
We basically assess them at entry level, based on observations and plan accordingly to ensure all areas of the curriculum are covered.

It is very common for parents to tell us that their dc is already doing well with phonics or numeracy etc but in reality their perception of their child's abilities, maybe very different to ours!

Camomila · 10/10/2020 07:59

I am not sure why the have done these tests when they did not teach the children yet
It's done at the very beginning of term so they know the DCs 'baseline'/ ie. what they are starting off with.
Try not to be disappointed, she's got 14 more years of education to catch up!

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Roseboss · 10/10/2020 09:13

It has mentioned that it a baseline assessment
Literacy and maths and for maths she has got 75 percent for maths but only 15 percent for English i live in uk

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nogooddeedgoesunpunished · 15/10/2020 14:27

Following with interest as my DS was described as a bit below where they'd like children to be in his baseline assessment but " tries really hard". He's been there 7 weeks after a 5 month gap during lockdown and he's 4! I'm trying not to worry but do wonder if it means he's got some kind of mark against him as a slow child? I am assured by other parents that it doesn't predict future assessment scores so perhaps it's not something to worry about too much at this stage.

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Roseboss · 16/10/2020 12:09

I have discussed this with her teacher. Basically they said we need to to the baseline in order to know in what areas your child needs more support and you do not need to worry about because they have time to improve but ask your son's teachers that how could you help him at home. For example I bought flash cards to help my child to understand letters sounds better and teach her to be more independent in terms of self care so don't worry as he is too little yet

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Roseboss · 16/10/2020 12:11

They are not slow. Children have different developmental skills and when I spoke with other parents they have got some kind of advice for their child to improve so everyone has different plans but do not label and do not believe labels

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OverTheRainbow88 · 16/10/2020 12:15

I wouldn’t give it a second thought, defo don’t talk about it in front of your child.
It’s for the teacher to ‘measure progress’, this is why we don’t share this info with parents as it’s almost irrelevant to them and gets them in a panic.

oiboi · 16/10/2020 12:25

Mine were in reception last year and they got a baseline mark against the EYFS scheme but not in percentage format.
They scored in the low ranges but recognised almost no letters, couldn't write their names and couldn't reliably count to 10.
Sounds like your daughter is doing great.

Stompythedinosaur · 16/10/2020 13:04

I dont think it is particularly helpful to attach a percentage to such a young child's ability.

I'd try not to worry about it. She might just have been having an off day and not have been very focused. Is she happy at school and doing OK socialising?

Further through the year you can ask who she is doing in relation to age related expectations.

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Roseboss · 16/10/2020 15:41

Her maths is good but they said she needs to know the sounds of phonics to match the words to their picture she knows the name of things but did not know the sound but in nursery they just learned About phonics she can write her name spell it knows every color animals she is playing alongside children but in real life she is playing with our friends children but I was shocked with their report and even when they explained their results I was so confused because I have so many friends that always tell me my daughter is very advanced but her teachers this year couldn't tell us

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BathtubGin · 16/10/2020 15:54

What did they use to test her?

OverTheRainbow88 · 16/10/2020 17:21

@Roseboss
I would just chill out and forget about it. You sound like you are getting worked up over nothing.

oiboi · 16/10/2020 19:39

Are they marking based on attainments wanted by the end of the year?
Iirc the maths is fairly basic but reading and writing is much harder so it might mean she's 75% attained maths but further off for phonics etc? Which would be right as the year has only just started

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Roseboss · 16/10/2020 23:15

Reception baseline test : Literacy and maths
She knew everything about maths and even she knew her phonics , names but not the sounds this is not an actual test it is just for them to see how they can help children but they have done a mistake as they sent me a letter with results and percentage so I have been so much confused cuz they have just started a reception and When I spoke with other parents they were confused too so i spoke with her teachers and I asked for more information they said you have to work on phonics sounds so I bought flash cards ( jolly phonics ) very helpful flash cards and there is an app too , to work with her! I know that I am overthinking but when in schools they are going to address the problem I feel so nervous as this is my first child but I know my daughter so I know she can do her best by practice

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Roseboss · 16/10/2020 23:21

Oiboi
I really don't know what is their purpose because they have just started to teach children phonic sounds but they have done these tests at the beginning of the term to know how to help children or out them in different groups for example my daughter's math is good so she has to spend more time to do the literacy and as English is her second language I have to work with her at home

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cabbageking · 16/10/2020 23:34

They shouldn't discuss the results with parents.
There is no pass or fail. It is for school use only

Smellbellina · 16/10/2020 23:40

We do baseline assessments because to be blunt we have to.
I really wouldn’t worry about your DC’s results we have to get them to a certain level by the end of the year and if we don’t we have to have an extremely good reason why. Your DC just isn’t there... yet. And that’s completely fine she’s only just started!

Subordinateclause · 17/10/2020 07:34

This year is slightly different but in general schools have to do a baseline assessment and it has to be before they have been taught anything - this is from the government, not schools deciding on a whim. If your child is 4 it will come as no surprise to the school they are not at the same stage as a child born on Sept 1st. It's not labelling a child and will not mean they are perceived as failing or anything already. It sounds like your child is doing just fine but bear in mind a few reception children will already be able to read and write quite a few words - it needs to be acknowledged they are starting from different places so teaching can be planned accordingly. Where children start in reception is by no means where they end up by the end of the year though.

Findahouse21 · 17/10/2020 07:43

The baseline assessment is great in my opinion. Dd (now in Year 1) spent 4 full days St nursery from age 2 and they never raised a concern, always said she was bright etc. She spent 4 weeks in reception and the baseline assessment identified concerns with her fine motor skills that were really impacting on her early pencil skills. A term of daily intervention later and the issues had been sorted. She finished reception exceeding in all areas and with absolutely great art skills. So don't worry, the school are best placed to teach now they have all if the information

terrywynne · 17/10/2020 08:51

English is her second language I have to work with her at home

I would definitely try and forget this percentage score. Yes, support her with her English at home but it doesn't seem surprising that her English might be a bit behind her maths if it is not her first language!

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Roseboss · 18/10/2020 22:58

She can read some words and write her name and some phonics but the sounds of phonics is something that we have to work on it , I don't have any problems with baseline but i was shocked to see her English score as it was below to what I expected from her and their explanation at first place was very confusing so I thought if I discuss this with other parents I can get it , it wasn't only my issue the other parents felt the same thing perhaps because it is our first experience and plus this coronavirus situation everything is so complicated as we can not go for play dates like before so everyone is feeling alone so asking questions is good . Thank you so much everyone

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Roseboss · 18/10/2020 23:02

We used to go to play dates as our children could have extra time and we could do some educational plans as well , creative programs but now everything is different. My child is an only child and she is so lonely we don't have any family here and English is our second language so at some points everything is new to me that's why I am overthinking and felt so bad as I am a bit slow but I am reading a lot and using so many resources to sort out everything!

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