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Does anyone here keep mantids?

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lucysmam · 07/10/2020 21:35

Dd2 has been doing her research & would like an orchid mantis (I've been doing mine too - I suspect I will end up feeding it).

I was wondering what sort of enclosure you have? There are loads of them & I'm not sure what to buy Confused. I'd prefer not to spend a fortune if at all possible but something that looks smart in the living room would be a bonus!

Thanks!

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hairypaws · 07/10/2020 21:53

I don't know anything about them at all but I think they are fascinating and beautiful. I've seen them loads on Facebook groups when I had a beardie and was always amazed by them.

lucysmam · 07/10/2020 22:14

My friend keeps reptiles, snakes & a tortoise (as well as two dogs, a cat, a hamster and snails) so I asked her but she has no experience of insects & wasn't overly sure.

They look full of character; it'll probably live in the kitchen through the day since I spend most of my time in there...so it's not lonely. I have no idea if they get lonely really 🤷‍♀️

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ZoominMoomin · 07/10/2020 23:36

@lucysmam I haven't kept mantids but I have kept cockroaches (yes, you read that right!), and honestly, it is quite easy to keep them as long as you provide them with the right heat, humidity and food.

Enclosure wise, it depends on what variety of mantis you're going for, and what instar (the age of the insect) you are going for. If it's tiny/a baby, don't get a big cage as it might escape or be difficult for you to find in the enclosure. It will need the correct substrate - I used coconut based substrate for my roaches, but I think mantises prefer soil, but you'll have to double check. Get some bark/twigs for it to climb on. Get these from pet shops and not from the garden, as they may have other insects or bacteria on that might kill your pet! They like to hide and they hang from them when they shed.
You will need a heat lamp or mad, as well as a thermostat and a humidity gauge. Before you get your mantis, make sure you can get your enclosure to the suitable heat and humidity levels - again, this depends on the breed you choose! - and a spray bottle so you can spray the cage down to help build humidity if it needs it. For decoration, you can get fake plants and flowers, which the mantis might like to hide behind.

Generally, insects are easy to look after, but you must make sure that the temperature and humidity are looked after at all times, otherwise it will die. They're just not built to deal with our climate, especially as we head into winter! Also, as a final note, the mantis wont get lonely! They are used to being on their own. As long as it's fed and has somewhere to hide, it will be happy! Don't get it a friend, as they will probably fight and eat each other.

Anyway, I hope that helps. They're fairly simple creatures, but very interesting and fun to look after, I have been told!

ZoominMoomin · 07/10/2020 23:42

I forgot to say, I kept my roaches in an ExoTerra Nano 20x20x20. The double doors on the front were very useful when cleaning them out and handling them, as well as putting the food in. They have inlet holes for you to put the thermo and wires through for any lamps or lights. The only downside I found with them was the metal grate on the top did rust over time due to the humidity hitting it, but that can be fixed with a quick sand and clean coat of paint! I also used the MicroClimate Mini stat, and it worked just fine. Depending on what room you have, you may be best off with some sort of heat lamp, as I had a bit of bad luck with heat mats, but play around with it and see what gets the enclosure as close to perfect as possible! Sorry for the double post.

KilljoysDutch · 08/10/2020 00:04

They don't live very long only 5-8 months depending on their sex and I think it's really hard to get hold of the pretty female ones. Has she considered stick insects? They're more fun then you would think and reproduce on their own. I have two different breeds (indian and black beauty) in a storage tub from wilkos covered with netting. They don't need heat or humidity just lots of covertly stolen hedge. My Indian stick insects are now happily producing their own eggs at an alarming rate.

lucysmam · 08/10/2020 08:08

@ZoominMoomin that's really helpful & confirmed most of what I've been reading, thank you! I'll have a look at the enclosure you mentioned this morning while she's at school. I hadn't thought about setting that up first but that's a good point so we'll start there - makes sense thinking about it!

I have a whole book shelf top free, space wise, so there would be space for a lamp. I couldn't imagine one fitting in a little enclosure so suppose if we got a lamp it'd be free standing - I'll have a google & see what's about.

I wonder if there's a mantis forum - I'll google that too. There's bound to be something.

I'm glad it wouldn't get lonely - I had visions of it being quite sad living on it's own Confused

@KilljoysDutch we did suggest stick insects but the enthusiasm just wasn't there for them. I have explained many times that they don't live long but she's adamant that she'd like a mantis & doesn't mind if it's not female.

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lucysmam · 08/10/2020 18:23

Just a quick bump in case anyone has any other advice or enclosure recommendations :)

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TheNoodlesIncident · 09/10/2020 07:56

I don't have any advice but if I was thinking of keeping unconventional animals at home, I'd make a visit to a zoo that keeps that species (Chester would be a good bet) to see them in a good enclosure and try to pick the brains of the keepers who are looking after them.

Years and years ago when I kept fish, when I had problems I wasn't above ringing the aquarium section of Liverpool Museum for their advice, they were always lovely and had lots of advice and suggestions for a concerned teen. I did have lots of books (no internet then) and tried my best to give them the environment that they needed, but sometimes there's something not covered by books and getting a tropical fish to the vet's just wasn't possible.

I don't know where you would obtain your mantid from but specialist shops often have a lot of animal husbandry experience (the aquarium shop I got my fish and supplies from dealt solely with fish, they weren't a pet shop who would be clueless ime) and can be helpful as well. If your species is not long lived you may well be going back for another before too long!

lucysmam · 09/10/2020 08:07

@TheNoodlesIncident what a good idea! I'll have a google and see if there's anywhere local we could get to.

There is a reptiles/exotics shop locally but my friend wasn't overly impressed with them. We could always have a walk down and see for ourselves though.

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