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Do my kids need to islolate in this situation?

53 replies

52andblue · 04/10/2020 10:43

Hi, silly qu possibly but

My kids visit their father whom I'm separated from most weekends.
They are there now, When I dropped them off I went had a cuppa.
He just texted that he has a temperature and thinks his sense of smell is a bit off but no cough so far. I suggested he get a test.
Do the kids need to stay off school until he gets the results, even though they don't live with him?

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alexdgr8 · 04/10/2020 16:01

sorry, missed out a word,
i think school would b v annoyed if you took them in.

TheEC · 04/10/2020 16:02

OP does NOT need to isolate unless the test is positive

bethany39 · 04/10/2020 16:04

We've been counting DSD as our "bubble" as she is here every few days, in which case yes they do need to isolate.

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bethany39 · 04/10/2020 16:06

@Muchtoomuchtodo

Yes, all of you need to isolate until he gets a negative result, or for 14 days if it’s positive. You really cannot send the kids into school. If you hadn’t been in his house for a cuppa, you would not have to isolate.
She only needs to isolate if he tests positive. She's been in contact, but she's not in his household.
saraclara · 04/10/2020 16:08

Of course they do.

You have to isolate if you've even been in a restaurant where a fellow diner had covid. And you don't live with them or spend the weekend with them! So I don't know why you think it's different that your kids don't live with their father.

At this point you have to assume he has it and act accordingly. If it turns out the test is negative, then you can go back to normal life.

whirlwindwallaby · 04/10/2020 16:11

You have to isolate if you've even been in a restaurant where a fellow diner had covid. Only if they have a positive test, not if they just have symptoms.

Muchtoomuchtodo · 04/10/2020 16:12

OP has been in the same house for more than 15 minutes with someone who now has symptoms.

Of course she needs to self isolate while the symptomatic person is getting tested.

Muchtoomuchtodo · 04/10/2020 16:13

See what the NHS Website says. It’s quite clear.

TheEC · 04/10/2020 16:15

@Muchtoomuchtodo

OP may choose to isolate. Guidance does not dictate that she must

EggbertHeartsTina · 04/10/2020 16:15

OP does not self isolate unless she lives with him or they are classed as a support bubble.

Do my kids need to islolate in this situation?
Do my kids need to islolate in this situation?
justchecking1 · 04/10/2020 16:18

The sensible thing would be for the kids to stay at his and self isolate until the result of his test. Not sure if that's possible for you?

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52andblue · 04/10/2020 16:21

They don't live with him, even part time.
But they stayed, unplanned, at his house Sat night as he 'was tired'.
They were keen, I didn't have to have them home, it seemed fine.
It's only today, dd has texted me that he is coughing a lot and I contacted him and he said he feels hot and didn't smell the pizza burning last night that I strongly suggested he gets a test.
I will pick them up in a bit (as planned, just a day later) and they and I will isolate until he gets his test result.
The NHS site is clear, sorry, I should have checked that before MN!

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RizzleDrizzle · 04/10/2020 16:24

You have to isolate if you've even been in a restaurant where a fellow diner had covid. And you don't live with them or spend the weekend with them! So I don't know why you think it's different that your kids don't live with their father

Wether you’d presume it is positive and return to normal life when it’s negative is by the by the rules are the same

If fellow diner at restaurant has symptoms but you don’t live with them until they test positive you don’t have to isolate

Just like op ex has symptoms but as she doesn’t live with him she doesn’t have to isolate until he tests postive.

If the diner at the restaurant tests postive yes isolate same here if ex test postive OP has to isolate.

Are you going to isolate every time you go to a restaurant just in case a fellow dinner has symptoms cis you would presume they are positive and when their test comes back negative you resume normal life?!?!

You probably wouldn’t even know if they had symptoms or their test result unless it was positive that’s why you think it’s different but it’s not!

Muchtoomuchtodo · 04/10/2020 16:26

@EggbertHeartsTina

OP does not self isolate unless she lives with him or they are classed as a support bubble.
OP has said that ex-h is her support bubble.

I’m now beginning to see why tighter restrictions aren’t working in many areas.......

whirlwindwallaby · 04/10/2020 16:30

She doesn't mention anything that you would need to be in a support bubble for though. Moving children between parents and providing assistance to vulnerable people was allowed before support bubbles were.

EggbertHeartsTina · 04/10/2020 16:32

Muchtoomuchtodo I was just stating what NHS said, I didn’t say she shouldn’t isolate. I did not realise they were a support bubble.

Muchtoomuchtodo · 04/10/2020 16:38

@whirlwindwallaby OP has been in the ex-h’s house for about 20 minutes for a cuppa when dropping off dc’s bag. Not just dropping them off at the door. Close contact is how this virus spreads best.

Perhaps it’s because I’m in Wales where things have been clearly explained throughout, but from the information that OP has given and what’s stated on the NHS website I don’t get how this can be misinterpreted.

EggbertHeartsTina · 04/10/2020 16:44

I do think that actually the whole array of information is a bit confusing, especially with how to define a support bubble which were designed during the full lockdown.

However I have just found this which seems to describe the OP’s situation quite well - so actually regardless of whether they are the same bubble she should isolate. But it took some clicking to find that!

Do my kids need to islolate in this situation?
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52andblue · 04/10/2020 17:06

When I say 'support bubble' that is because both kids are ASD and I am also disabled. So the only logical person for our household to mix with if necessary is the children's Father as we have no other family around.

We will ALL isolate until he gets the all clear - I regret that Cuppa!
But I'd rather isolate than worry I could spread it to someone unwittingly.

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whirlwindwallaby · 04/10/2020 17:06

@EggbertHeartsTina That part is clear, without that, I agree the situation is not clear.

SoloMummy · 04/10/2020 17:31

@52andblue

they've been there since Friday evening, so they could have caught it, if he has it. I went in for about 20 mins (never do, usually, but dd forgot her bag etc so dropped it off and he was being civil so thought I should be) Kids are allowed to go between our houses as parents separated and exH is my 'support bubble' I guess as although we are separated he helps me parent kids by taking them most weekends and drops off food sometimes (I am disabled)
That's over the 15 minutes contact time for you. And given the children are part of the 2 households they need to isolate now.

I think you would be very unreasonable @52andblue to not isolate as well as the children.

Tippexy · 04/10/2020 17:34

So much nonsense on here!

Officially, they only need to isolate IF and WHEN he gets a positive test result.

bethany39 · 04/10/2020 18:00

@Tippexy

So much nonsense on here!

Officially, they only need to isolate IF and WHEN he gets a positive test result.

@Tippexy Only if you don't count children of separated parents as part of the same household/bubble as both their parents. Since they see them indoors regularly without distancing, I'd have thought they count as part of their bubble. In which case last time I looked the guidance was that they isolate as part of his bubble.