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9/11 was 19 years ago

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mummabear1967 · 10/09/2020 22:19

Can’t believe it. Remember it like it was yesterday.

I remember it coming on the ITV or BBC News, I thought it was a scene from a new movie until I quickly realised it was indeed reality.

Doesn’t it just sadden you that all those lives are over for nothing? It’s just heartbreaking.

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MissConductUS · 12/09/2020 13:22

What really surprised me though is one of the videos we watched implied that a lot of teens in the US now weren’t really taught about it in school. I assumed it would be heavily covered.

That certainly wasn't true for my kids, who studied it pretty extensively in their secondary school American history course.

mummabear1967 · 12/09/2020 13:41

Does anyone know why the Twin Towers were not rebuilt?

I was thinking it was out of respect to the victims and their families, I don’t think I’d have liked them to be rebuilt. The memorial ground is lovely and a great way to remember those that sadly died that awful day

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Soubriquet · 12/09/2020 13:46

@mummabear1967

Does anyone know why the Twin Towers were not rebuilt?

I was thinking it was out of respect to the victims and their families, I don’t think I’d have liked them to be rebuilt. The memorial ground is lovely and a great way to remember those that sadly died that awful day

I would think the officials would have thought it was too tempting for terrorists to target again
bengalcat · 12/09/2020 13:47

I was at home with my 12 week old firstborn when my ex texted to ask if I had the TV on - I didn’t - I switched on to the horror .

LetsGoFlyAKiteee · 12/09/2020 13:56

Such a horrific day...wonder if the terrorist knew the outcome would be the buildings collapsing. That's what makes it worse. And people being told to stay put only a plane to then hit their tower..

Saw a documentary on the hotel which was partially collapsed when the towers collapsed. One of the survivors got out..got home only to discover his sister and niece was on one of the high jacked planes. Heartbreaking the whole thing and scary to think of the hate and disregard for life people can have

Oliversmumsarmy · 12/09/2020 14:02

I was pregnant with ds.

I switched on the tv as I was going to tackle the ironing.

I saw one tower ablaze and then thought the plane flying nearby was going awfully close and then it hit the 2nd tower.

The company Dp worked for had their Head office in the Twin Towers. They lost so many people that day.

Peridot1 · 12/09/2020 14:03

DS and I went to the Memorial and Museum last year. I’d forgotten this until a photo reminded me this morning - the search and rescue dogs. Some of them got very depressed not finding people alive and to encourage them to keep going their handlers hid live people in the rubble so the dogs felt better. I found that so sad. So sad that they were so obviously depressed.

mummabear1967 · 12/09/2020 14:10

@Peridot1

DS and I went to the Memorial and Museum last year. I’d forgotten this until a photo reminded me this morning - the search and rescue dogs. Some of them got very depressed not finding people alive and to encourage them to keep going their handlers hid live people in the rubble so the dogs felt better. I found that so sad. So sad that they were so obviously depressed.
The poor wee darlings. I love dogs so much. Hard to believe this had an impact on them too Sad
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mummabear1967 · 12/09/2020 14:11

@LetsGoFlyAKiteee

Such a horrific day...wonder if the terrorist knew the outcome would be the buildings collapsing. That's what makes it worse. And people being told to stay put only a plane to then hit their tower..

Saw a documentary on the hotel which was partially collapsed when the towers collapsed. One of the survivors got out..got home only to discover his sister and niece was on one of the high jacked planes. Heartbreaking the whole thing and scary to think of the hate and disregard for life people can have

It just scares me so much how much hatred some individuals have. Why did these people hate the US so much that they thought it was ok to murder nearly 3000 innocent people
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7Days · 12/09/2020 14:11

I was working in a shop. The manager came out of his office and told us "America has been attacked. It might be the start of ww3".
Shop was empty all afternoon.

Went back to the flat afterwards and watched the footage over and over again with my flatmates.

Hairydilemma · 12/09/2020 14:13

Was working in the City and someone told me - as everyone’s said, no smart phones then so just a really slow BBC news website which kept crashing - eventually I remember rather bizarrely finding a NZ website which was the only one that would open and where I could find out what was happening (guess maybe it was the middle of the night in NZ so less traffic).

The fear of hearing planes go over low into City airport as PP said - there were lots of rumours and a real fear London would be next.

Worked for a real work, work, work firm and none of us were allowed home early. Remember the papers, all with the same image on and just a general sense of shell-shock on the train.

We were due at my ILs for a birthday celebration that evening which went ahead...they really weren’t very news savvy and hadn’t grasped the full horror of it, I don’t think. I remember having a cold and just generally feeling wretched and wanting to go home and see the news rather than sit around chit-chatting and eating a buffet.

Later found that someone I used to work with (and who oddly came from the town I now live in, though we both worked in London) was killed on the top floor. Sad

Yoholyolo · 12/09/2020 14:44

Does anyone know why the Twin Towers were not rebuilt?

There was a great deal of argument about if and what should be rebuilt there.
Twin Towers were owned by the Port Authority, but that July were leased for 3.2 billion dollars for 99 years to the owner of 7 WTC Larry Silverstein. An insurance deal hadn't been finalized before the attack happened. (this is were some conspiracy theorists found themselves a home)

Many families and friends of the dead, locals, and Mayor Guilliani wanted it left bare other than a memorial.
Silverstein however, couldn't claim any insurance unless all the destroyed office space was rebuilt.

The Governor of New York, George Pataki, had the final decision and IMO did his best to fairly balance out the different needs.

Lower Manhattan development corporation launched the World Trade Center Site Memorial Competition for a memorial.
Then later, architectural groups where commissioned to suggest replacing the twin towers with 'something.'
Four proposals were to rebuild the towers as taller versions.
If I have the memory correctly one of them, backed by Trump, was actually planned to be entered into the memorial competition, as the supposed memorial, but got it's timing wrong.

A friend who wasn't part of the normal businesses occupying the towers, died in the North tower and I'm grateful to be able to look at the sky at approximately where I know he very much enjoyed the view and think of him enjoying it there, (and some of his friends who worked in the restaurant, at least one of whom fell to his death) in a way that really wouldn't have been possible if they'd replaced it with some 'showy' 'we don't get beat' 'bigger and better replacement' full of more people.
In some way over the years it has helped just a tiny bit to balance out their last moments and how they died along with all those brave rescuers who died trying to rescue others.

willowdeandickson · 12/09/2020 14:45

There is a new skyscraper there called One WTC.

Yoholyolo · 12/09/2020 14:53

LetsGoFlyAKiteee

Such a horrific day...wonder if the terrorist knew the outcome would be the buildings collapsing. That's what makes it worse.

I remember many years later seeing Bin Laden on film confirming that he was one of the most hopeful of how much damage could be done with the plan of hitting several key buildings with hijacked planes, but even he wasn't expecting that outcome. It is fair to say he was viewing it as a bonus.

Yoholyolo · 12/09/2020 14:54

willowdeandickson yes but not on the original footprint.

MissConductUS · 12/09/2020 17:42

@Yoholyolo - that was a great explanation of the rebuilding process. It was all very contentious with lots of strong feelings on all sides. I also think that the end result was very fair and appropriate.

@mummabear1967 - thank you for starting this thread. It's been really helpful to have a place to talk about what happened and hear how it affected others. My apologies if I've over contributed a bit.

mummabear1967 · 12/09/2020 18:35

[quote MissConductUS]@Yoholyolo - that was a great explanation of the rebuilding process. It was all very contentious with lots of strong feelings on all sides. I also think that the end result was very fair and appropriate.

@mummabear1967 - thank you for starting this thread. It's been really helpful to have a place to talk about what happened and hear how it affected others. My apologies if I've over contributed a bit.[/quote]
No don’t be silly - you can post as many times as you like.

Yes it was great to see everyone’s feelings.

It just made me feel so sad remembering 9/11 19 years on, I didn’t know anybody caught up in it nor do I live in the US but it was such a shocking event and I remember it so clearly on the news when it had happened - it just made me feel so sad that all those innocent lives are gone for absolutely nothing it just makes me feel so sad Sad

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mummabear1967 · 12/09/2020 18:36

I just wish it was physically possible to bring each and everyone of those people back again to their families - they should still be here today

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Bagadverts · 12/09/2020 18:52

I had had brain surgery earlier in the year and was in a taxi going to my mothers work from a check up and it was on the radio. I think it was one of the first times I was out alone since the surgery.

There were two bookends - admission for the surgery 4 July and a concert we put on with American relatives in the UK in November. Proceeds split a brain surgery charity and an American one.

roarfeckingroarr · 12/09/2020 19:18

@CocoBryceDidAcidWithMe

I hope people forgive, the sooner the better IMO Sad
Forgive the terrorists....??!!
Hendalle · 12/09/2020 19:34

I’d only recently started university (NZ and started “early” in term 2) I’d just moved into a flat share and woke up to the news. It was such a frightening and deeply sad time.
DH and I visited the memorial and museum when we were in NYC a couple years back, I’d forgotten some things (the melted twisted fire engine, the spray paint markings on the concrete pillars & many many of the stories from the planes) and found the whole visit just so deeply sad.

We also toured the pentagon on the same trip, we stood in the rebuilt wing which holds a memorial to the victims, there is also a monument outdoors which is very touching in the design, it’s beautiful. Our guide had us look out a window and showed the direction plane had come from - I get a lump in my throat just thinking about it. All those people.
I also heard recently there are a lot of people who were in NYC at the time who have developed quite serious respiratory problems from breathing in the dust and smoke. It’s as is for some it’s never ended.

Frazzled2207 · 12/09/2020 22:12

I actually went to ground zero in April 2002. We walked around the fencing and saw all the tributes of those lost which was incredibly moving.

However the “commercialisation” if it really shocked me. You could pay $20 to climb up to a walkway to look “in”. And there were lots of stalls selling key rings with pics of planes going into the towers etc. Very odd and felt just wrong. American flags were draped just everywhere at the time.

Clearthinking · 12/09/2020 22:26

Was working at a warehouse and we all stood in disbelief at 40 odd display tv's showing the footage. Explained this to my 14 year old neice the other day, she didn't know what it was, I cried in the car as we googled it, she didn't quite believe me. I wish it wasn't true.

Polkadotties · 12/09/2020 22:54

I was in year 8, I had English that day, can’t remember the other 4 lessons, strange that I remember that.
I can’t remember hearing about it at school. Got home and it was on the tv. I will never forget the images. I can’t begin to imagine the fear and panic those poor people felt.
Reading the transcripts of voicemails of those on the planes always makes me cry, thinking about it now has set me off 😢

mummabear1967 · 13/09/2020 09:35

@Polkadotties

I was in year 8, I had English that day, can’t remember the other 4 lessons, strange that I remember that. I can’t remember hearing about it at school. Got home and it was on the tv. I will never forget the images. I can’t begin to imagine the fear and panic those poor people felt. Reading the transcripts of voicemails of those on the planes always makes me cry, thinking about it now has set me off 😢
Those transcripts were awfully sad to listen to. I just can’t imagine being in that situation were you know your plane is hijacked and that you’re not going to make it out alive. I just can’t begin to think of the fright and horror those poor people would have experienced
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