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Any advice for dealing with someone you don’t want to chat to on fb without resorting to the nuclear option of blocking them?

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Specksofwhiteallaround · 17/08/2020 11:59

It’s an old school friend from where I grew up in New Zealand who for context I haven’t seen since we moved to the uk around 1998. She added me about ten years ago and the messages have been slowly creeping up since then to the point where it’s really annoying me.
It started with a chatty "hi what are you up to?" message once a month, then weekly then two or three times a week. Then three years ago she had her son and I’ve guessed from what she says that all her real life friends dropped away and suddenly she’s messaged me three or four times a day and it’s just too much. On the occasions I am happy to chat she never wants a ten minute catch up, it’s always the same repetitive questions and topics of conversation that she never listens to.
This weekend alone she sent my six messages about her lock down status, and four asking about what I’m up to despite the fact I last spoke on Thursday. Because of the time difference these are through the night and morning and I feel guilty but it’s got to the point where half the time I just ignore them in hopes she’ll assume I’m sleeping. When she realises I’m not replying when I get up in the morning she starts sending "hope you have a good *whichever day it happens to be." every night and hope you had a good day every morning on the off chance I’ll reply and get dragged into a long in depth chat about every aspect of her life.
I know the simple answer is block her but I’d feel awful doing it, after I moved away she had a traumatic brain injury so it’s not really her fault she repeats the same conversation over and over again, she’s said she has memory problems so I doubt she realises she’s doing it. She also very isolated, no family near by, no close family and a partner who has red flags flying all over him.
I’ve point blank told her several times that it’s too much messaging and she either gets in a shitty mood over it saying she’s just being friendly or forgets I’d said it after a few weeks which is why I tend to ignore most the messages and just check in once in a while.
Lately though I’m finding it impossible to deal with her as her sons being investigated for ASD and the messages I’m getting are just making me annoyed. My son is autistic so at first I tried to be supportive but her mum and partner don’t want to admit there’s something not right and after weeks of messaging me that she knew he had it etc etc she’s decided that the specialist are wrong and it’s totally normal for him to not speak at three and she’s not going to bother taking him back to see the specialists or to the speech therapy and it’s just winding me up. I know she’s entitled to think what she wants but she’s constantly doing stuff like this and keeps messaging me about it for back up that I just can’t in god consciousness give. An example of what I struggle with is the NZ equivalent of health visitor’s flagged up his behavioural and language issues and social services insisted she sent him to nursery as they suspected the fact he sees no other kids was a contributing factor, he caught the usual colds and had croup a couple of times so she pulled him out and wouldn’t be told that all kids catch colds from time to time. I kept getting messages about how those silly child protection people were trying to makes her send him but she knew better and I’ll be honest I just didn’t want to hear it anymore as I just can’t agree with her. It’s just so frustrating to hear.
So any advice on how to deal with it would be gratefully received as I’d feel guilty blocking her completely as she is very vulnerable in real life and it sounds weird but I don’t want to leave her entirely under her partner’s influence.

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Specksofwhiteallaround · 17/08/2020 12:07

Sorry that’s so long, didn’t want to drip feed.

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pinkpetal2 · 17/08/2020 12:11

If it was me I'd just delete messenger or mute her. I couldn't deal with all of that.
It's sad she's isolated etc but that's not your problem. I live my life now not feeling bad if someone stresses me and I cut them off. My mental health is important also.
Don't feel guilty at all.

DifficultPifcultLemonDifficult · 17/08/2020 12:15

Put a status up, make sure only she can see it, saying that you're coming off FB for a while.

Then leave it a couple of days and block her.

Either that or just mute her messages and only chat when you want to and keep telling her you only have 10 minutes when you do chat.

Mandalalorianna · 17/08/2020 12:21

I'd just mute her and answer maybe once a week. But I'm menopausal and life's too short!

Specksofwhiteallaround · 17/08/2020 12:23

I guess continuing to only answer when I’m happy to chat is the easiest option next to blocking her, I just wish I didn’t feel so guilty.

I told her this morning I was a bit busy to chat and she sent a reply saying ok. Then thirty minutes later I got five messages about Auckland being in lockdown Confused

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NoParticularPattern · 17/08/2020 12:32

I know you say it’s not her fault that she doesn’t remember but honestly that’s a massive excuse on her part. She’s written it down, she has the evidence in front of her. If she knows she has issues with her memory then like most people would she would re-read what has already been said so that she doesn’t repeat herself. The fact that when you tel her it’s too much she gets all shitty suggests to me that she knows it is but she expects you not to call her out on it by using the brain injury as an excuse. Honestly I’d block her but if you’re not willing to do so then just ignore and only answer when it suits you. You don’t have to get drawn in to the conversation to it’s greatest depth- you have the option at any point to say “oh dear look at the time, must dash!” And log off. It’s not like she’s there in front of you refusing to let you leave the house, she’s in an app on the other side of the world.

Specksofwhiteallaround · 17/08/2020 13:06

@NoParticularPattern She does say the same things endlessly, sometimes it’s the same conversation on repeat daily if I don’t ignore it so I guess I just assumed it was down to her memory problems and that it doesn’t occur to her to check she’s already said it. She can definitely have a nasty side, maybe is banking on me making excuses for it. Fairly often I just reply oh right, or oh ok when she tells me something that I don’t want to get drawn into and she sent me a snide message mocking me for saying the same thing all the time. She didn’t like it all when I pointed out she’d said the same thing a million times and I didn’t know what more to say in response and kept repeating it back to me for weeks until I got fed up and stopped replying for a couple of months.

I think I was hoping for a miracle cure where I didn’t have to block her but not constantly ignore her either as I do enjoy talking to her generally though just not multiple times a day, every day...

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Feawen · 17/08/2020 13:45

I have a friend who can be a bit like this.

Usually, I send a bland response along the lines of “Sorry you’re having a tough day. Can’t chat now as I’m working/on my way somewhere/about to go to sleep, but I’ll be thinking of you and sending virtual hugs.”

Occasionally, I reach out to her and ask how she is, and we have a proper talk.

At times when I’m really not in a position to be supportive, I ignore her messages.

It is hard as this is someone who has been a good friend to me, helped me when I needed it, and who I care about a lot. However, I feel our conversations get repetitive and unhealthy for us both, as she defaults to going over past traumas, relationship and friendship issues - and that’s all she ever wants to talk about. I have offered sympathy and understanding as any good friend would, but I have had to set some limits for both our sakes.

I also switch off the little green light that tells people when I’m online - this is a godsend, as I use my phone a lot but am not always available to chat.

Tarararara · 17/08/2020 14:05

Follow the advice from the PP above - create a status post saying you are coming off facebook and messenger for a while. Under audience, make it so only she sees it. Switch off your green 'online' dot (I didnt know you could do that - thanks PP!) and voila, you can still browse facebook and comment on other people's posts (as long as she is not friends with them, and their posts are not public). If you make any facebook posts, exclude her in audience.

Of course, she might just move to WhatsApp or text message....

Specksofwhiteallaround · 17/08/2020 14:15

@Feawen That’s exactly my problem I think, she just can’t or won’t respect boundaries. I was happy to have a good chat every few weeks but she’s expecting to chat every day and honestly I have nothing new to say, I really don’t get up to much and never does she which is why I suspect she defaults to the same old topics and discussions about things that happened twenty odd years ago. I was happy to offer support with her son and that they’re suggesting he as ASD but now she’s done an about turn and is bombarding me with conspiracy type messages about how wrong they are and he’s normal unlike my son (she says he’s not naughty like mine is, I don’t even know where to start with that weird assumption, my kids not the one throwing heavy objects at other kids in kindergarten.) I’m struggling to find something nice to say to her.

Messenger is the only way I can chat to some family members due to distance and it annoys me that I’ve had to set it so I no longer show as online as the second she sees me online she’s there messaging me. I find I’m chatting to family less as they don’t see me online so are less inclined to send a chatty message unless they have something specific to share.

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Specksofwhiteallaround · 17/08/2020 14:22

@Tarararara she’s set to not see me online and still sends me a barrage of messages day and night.
Reading my messages back I’m actually beginning to wonder why on Earth I don’t just block her, my misplaced guilts made me a total walk over hasn’t it Blush
It’s weird as I only attended the school where we met for two maybe three years and we weren’t even that close. I’ve no idea why I put up with it Confused

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ImaginaryCat · 17/08/2020 14:25

Perhaps a response that will piss her off and make her block you instead.
"Sorry to hear you've decided to take that approach to DS's health. I'm afraid I have to disagree and think you're disadvantaging him massively. Seriously, please do consider whether this is the right course of action."
You'll be blocked before you've put your phone down!

MrsSpookyM · 17/08/2020 14:25

Meh. If she doesn't have your mobile or home address I'd just block her.

Specksofwhiteallaround · 17/08/2020 14:40

@ImaginaryCat I reached the end of my tether a few weeks back and snapped at her and it didn’t put her off even slightly. I woke up to a load of messages about how her mum had opened her eyes about her son and it definitely isn’t autism as she didn’t talk until she was 14 months (never mind that her son is three) and he’ll talk when he’s ready. I replied that I was impressed she knew better than a paediatric consultant and that it was amazing her mum had arrived at this diagnosis after meeting the kid once a year ago and she took the message completely at face value... I don’t think there’s a thing I could say that’d make her block me Shock

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Clymene · 17/08/2020 14:41

Tell her you're having a social media break and then block her.

GoshHashana · 17/08/2020 14:46

she just can’t or won’t respect boundaries

Then just block her. Seriously. People run around in circles trying not to offend or annoy people who clearly don't give a shiny shite about offending or annoying them back!

Specksofwhiteallaround · 17/08/2020 14:46

We share quite a few fb friends, if I blocked her would she see when I comment on their statuses or pictures etc? I’m a bit of a technophobe so I only know how to set myself to appear offline. If I did block her I didn’t want to get caught doing it so I don’t feel like I’ve kicked a puppy Blush

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gamerchick · 17/08/2020 14:52

@Specksofwhiteallaround

We share quite a few fb friends, if I blocked her would she see when I comment on their statuses or pictures etc? I’m a bit of a technophobe so I only know how to set myself to appear offline. If I did block her I didn’t want to get caught doing it so I don’t feel like I’ve kicked a puppy Blush
Shell not see you posting anything. It just won't be there at all.

know the simple answer is block her but I’d feel awful doing it, after I moved away she had a traumatic brain injury so it’s not really her fault she repeats the same conversation over and over again, she’s said she has memory problems so I doubt she realises she’s doing it

That's very kind of you but it's all written down. If she knows she has memory problems then she should be checking at the bare minimum as any other person would.

If you block, the guilt won't last long unless she involves someone else. Then you just tell whoever she sends that it's not something you want to discuss with them on repeat.

DifficultPifcultLemonDifficult · 17/08/2020 14:52

She wouldn't see anything you write if you block her.

Just do it, she brings nothing positive to your life, you don't have to see her or avoid her irl, she is emotionally draining you and negatively impacting your chats with your family. She will definitely find someone else to message soon enough. You have given yourself this burden under some misguided sense of responsibility for her emotional wellbeing, when it's quite clear she doesn't give a shit about yours. Set yourself free and block her op. You'll wonder why you left it so long.

Anxietea · 17/08/2020 14:56

Just mute her chat. Talk to her when you have the strength. If she confronts you just say "yeah sorry I have to mute you as obviously your messages are coming through at night because of the time difference, kept waking me up, I must have forgotten to unmute!"

That being said, she sounds terribly lonely and I wonder if you're the only person who responds to her?

Specksofwhiteallaround · 17/08/2020 15:10

Argh accidentally pressed send to early. I was trying to say I’ve felt bad about blocking her like I would anyone else this intrusive as I’m horribly aware of how much her partner’s isolated her. The sympathy is probably wasted as she doesn’t see a problem at all. She’s mentioned more than once that he refuses to use condoms and won’t pay for any other contraception as he wants another kid. I told her point blank that’s abusive behaviour and she just replied "meh, that’s men." and changed the subject. The minute she left work to have their son he’s made it so she’s financially dependent on him. I know it’s not my problem but I feel bad dumping her as a friend too like a lot of others appear to have done. She says they’ve stopped talking to her as they don’t have kids but I’m not sure its that, her pestering them constantly too in real life or something else entirely.

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Specksofwhiteallaround · 17/08/2020 15:13

@Anxietea aside from her partner’s family and a friend in Australia I’m definitely the only one to keep in contact with her. A couple of other school friends I know got sick of the rambling conversations and don’t answer her anymore but she thinks it’s because they’re too good for her now they’ve gotten married and moved to the uk. I sometimes feel like if I didn’t talk to her it’d literally just be her partner filling her head with nonsense and no one to question it.

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DifficultPifcultLemonDifficult · 17/08/2020 15:19

She isn't listening to you anyway though op.

There seems to be a lot of people who have dumped her, and they seem to be to blame. However the common denominator here is her and her behaviour.

I understand you feeling bad, but she really isn't your responsibility at all.

Specksofwhiteallaround · 17/08/2020 15:27

@DifficultPifcultLemonDifficult yes I’m starting to see that. It wasn’t so bad what it was just a case of ignoring her trying to drag me into repetitive conversation every day. But hearing her frankly wrong opinions on autism and why her son doesn’t have it when my own sons autistic is too much. Does make me wonder what she’s being saying to other people and whether in reality she’s offended them with her opinions too. Probably best I block her for a while before I really lose my temper and snap at her again.

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Clymene · 17/08/2020 15:39

To be blunt, her messaging you isn't because she really likes you as a person @Specksofwhiteallaround. You're just the only person who is putting up with her rambling and lack of boundaries.

She's not nice to you. She's not interested in your opinions or if she's invading your space.