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If you have a chronic illness, how are you treated by your GP?

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SinkGirl · 16/08/2020 16:41

I have endometriosis and adenomyosis and pain every day, and have done for over 20 years. I also have ME. My GP is causing me so much additional stress and I don’t know what to do.

Many years ago I was put on opiates after about 20 hospital admissions for pain relief. Thanks to the meds I’ve had no emergency admissions for years now as I can manage the worst of the pain myself.

I have tried every treatment licensed in the U.K. for endometriosis - six surgeries, every type of hormone treatment, anti depressants, epilepsy meds, every type of painkiller. Several years ago it was decided there was nothing more to be done - take the painkillers I’m on because that’s my lot. This is far from ideal but I’m out of options.

I reduced my dose by 90% through my pregnancy with my twins because my pain improved massively, and needed no support for this. I have maintained that dose for the last 4 years even though my pain is worsening.

My assigned GP seems to think I’m neurotic and a drug seeker who doesn’t need pain relief, despite the many pain specialists I’ve seen over the years who say I do. I’ve been at the practice for just over 4 years and I’ve probably seen her a couple of times a year. She regularly does things like change my prescription without telling me. They brought in an external GP to review all their chronic pain patients - we spoke for 40 minutes, he took the time to listen to me and said I am using them responsibly.

Recently she phoned me out of the blue and said I should be reducing them more quickly. She said she’s not suggesting replacing them with something, just stopping them - I asked how i am supposed to cope with the pain. I explained that my pain fluctuates as my cycles are irregular so one month may be worse than the last which affects how much I take that month, so what might last me 8 weeks now might last 7 or 9 weeks next time, and she seemed to understand this.

She said I should have a hysterectomy and was disapproving when I said that I wasn’t ready to completely give up on more children (I assume because our twins are disabled - we have decided not to have any more but I am really not mentally ready to have such drastic surgery). A hysterectomy is not a cure for the endo and frankly I am scared that if I have one but am still in pain they will refuse to help me because I should be cured.

I emailed about 2 weeks ago to request my usual prescription. We’ve had a very tough couple of weeks so I haven’t been able to collect it and have just been getting by as best I can, rationing what I do have (I always keep about a week’s supply on hand due to previous issues and I’ve been cutting down so have been able to stretch it out). Went to get it and it wasn’t there.

Looked at my online account and apparently the request was refused. Nobody contacted me to let me know. I got the usual response email saying they’d be issued within 48 hours. I think I must have sent the request one or two days early (it’s on a two month repeat) by mistake. They could have just issued it, or emailed back saying I should request it in two days, or called me.

This is not the only issue I’ve had with her. For example a few months ago I had a new type of pain and other bladder related symptoms (including a few instances of retention and intense shooting pain that made me vomit) - could just be endo but might not be, so I did an online consultation and she responded that the pain was caused by my painkillers and if I stop them the pain will stop (no evidence for this, no investigation, seems unlikely to be the meds when I’ve been on them for years, etc).

I understand that patients with chronic illness aren’t easy for GPs to treat, but I understand this and don’t expect much. I try not to bother the doctors unless it’s something urgent or worrying, and I am responsible with my pain relief - have never taken too much or had any problems.

It’s at the point where I have stopped contacting the doctor at all even if things are really bad. I recently plucked up the courage to contact them last week because I’ve had a low grade fever for nearly two months and it’s starting to worry me, but I was worried she would just dismiss me. Luckily another doctor called me who acknowledged that it’s complex but they should definitely run a few blood tests just to make sure there’s nothing else going on. He wasn’t rude or dismissive and he treated me like a human being, and I realised that things don’t have to be like they are.

What can I do? I’m worried that whatever I do will be seen as doctor hopping. I should not be scared to go to the doctors when needed. I don’t have health anxiety, I don’t worry that I have anything sinister going on, but I’m sick of being dismissed and everything blamed on my meds or my existing diagnoses.

Sorry, that was an essay. I know lots of chronic pain / illness patients are treated this way - has anything made it better? I hate being like this, but I know it is not my fault that I’m in pain. I definitely did not ask for they. I shouldn’t feel like this and I need to do something about it but I feel like anything I say or do will be used against me.

If anyone has any advice I would really appreciate it.

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JadesRollerDisco · 17/08/2020 19:36

And it may would probably have made me much worse too, not even just inappropriate

sadwithkiddies · 17/08/2020 22:12

oh how annoying - the new guidelines....and yes they will be used for all pain...yuk.

i've been in pain for 21 years, specific pain, lots of surgery needed.
Phoned GP last week as short on a specific med my hospital consultant usually prescribes.....told GP i've been using 4 day but just reduced to 2 day, so GP said continue with 2, if 4 needed again let me know as you are poorly enough to need admission to hospital. i'll leave a script plus soem morphine/paracetamol for you....all fine.

get the script - 10 prescripted, only 5 days....what a faff, i'll be on the phone again in 3 days to ensure i don't run out again.

worse thing is my GP knows its completely genuine, the GP the week before offered to admit me directly to the ward based on my symptoms, i refused and said no please just let my consultant know, and i just wanted to check 4 a day was ok, my usual hospital dose!

Thecurtainsofdestiny · 17/08/2020 22:22

I have chronic pain and am treated well by my GP (and the one before- we moved because we moved area).

So it is possible. I would try to change if not getting on with the GP I had. It's important to feel listened to and respected.

goose1964 · 17/08/2020 22:46

I have a hip problem which flares, and I can't take NSAIDs . I have zapain on prescription, and during a flare I could take my 8 a day but restrict myself to the nights a mid day dose. When I don't have a flare I don't need them. I hope they don't stop them be of I'll have no decent painkillere.

OnceUponALorry · 17/08/2020 22:57

I have a chronic disease but don't have any real pain.

Every time I got to the GP for something I'm told its something to do with my illness. Its infuriating.

SeasideMaiden · 17/08/2020 23:15

I'm finally about to have an MRI to look at my spine, only three years and eight months after a serious accident...

Because they said 'oh, it's just your fibro'.

I'm in a bloody wheelchair. It's taken moving a few hundred miles to find a GP who actually understands.

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 17/08/2020 23:33

That new guidance is supposed to be for primary chronic pain (ie where there’s no known cause) rather than pain due to an underlying condition. I’m sure many will fail to see the distinction though.

NICE is inviting comments on that guidance - up until 14 September. They'll take comments from individuals tho' they have more chance on being taken into account etc. if comments are channelled via an organisation. Are there organisations for primary pain rather than pain associated with underlying conditions?

www.nice.org.uk/guidance/indevelopment/gid-ng10069/consultation/html-content-2

yesicandoit · 18/08/2020 21:58

@Areyouquitesure have you tried glute (bottom) and lower back stretches for your sciatica ? I can see you have some knee issues, but child pose/rest position (yoga ) for your back and two glute stretches attached. Obviously you know your limits, don't jump out of bed first thing and try to stretch make sure you are warm / being walking about a bit first. Honestly stretching can for a few minutes every day could make such a difference.

An interesting article www.spine-health.com/conditions/sciatica/what-piriformis-syndrome

And Op @SinkGirl I feel for you, I can't imagine. Someone I used to work with who had endo and it really affected her life. Certainly she coped better when things were going well in her life, but that could be said for anything. I just wondered does weight affect it, you mentioned lifestyle changes ? My friend is was cuddly but has gained a lot due to comfort eating and she feels it's made it worse.

If you have a chronic illness, how are you treated by your GP?
Areyouquitesure · 18/08/2020 22:05

I have a yoga teacher who comes twice a week just for me for the last 2.5 years Grin

This bloody sciatica isn't going anywhere

AnnaMagnani · 18/08/2020 22:15

See the GP you do like, nobody will care.

I like my GP but I still prefer seeing someone else for some issues. And one GP in our practice was legendarily rude.

My DM stuck with her GP for years thinking she understood her problems while I wished she'd see someone else. Now the woman has retired she is having far better care from the newer younger GPs than she had from the one she and my DF stuck with for donkeys thinking they shouldn't make a fuss.

Honestly, you aren't as important to your GP as they are to you. Just book with the one you like next time, it won't hurt anyone's feelings.

mellowgreenspring · 18/08/2020 22:57

@boltzmannbrains how could I read that? I'd love to.

SinkGirl · 19/08/2020 08:58

I just wondered does weight affect it, you mentioned lifestyle changes ? My friend is was cuddly but has gained a lot due to comfort eating and she feels it's made it worse.

IME not really but I don’t really comfort eat, my body just holds on to weight now. My weight has always been really impacted by whatever hormones I’m on - some made me gain loads of weight, others made me lose weight rapidly and the worst I’ve ever been was when I was the thinnest I’ve been following one particularly nasty one. I’ve had low oestrogen for years and I can’t seem to shift the last half a stone to a stone since my twins were born four years ago.

There are very strict endo diets etc which I followed religiously and made no bloody difference which was annoying - I spent years trying to identify any foods that might trigger things to no avail.

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SinkGirl · 19/08/2020 09:00

Honestly, you aren't as important to your GP as they are to you. Just book with the one you like next time, it won't hurt anyone's feelings.

I do book to see other GPS wherever possible, but because she’s my allocated GP any time I send a prescription request it goes through her, which is why I keep having issues as she seems determined to repeatedly change things without telling me

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