Cooker vs dishwasher - kitchen/cooking enthusiasts' opinions please!

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We are getting our kitchen redone. I love cooking and baking. I have a double oven that I'm perfectly happy with. I have a really shit hob. I have a dishwasher that I hate with the fury of a thousand suns. I have the budget for a fuck off amazing four oven, 6 burner range style cooker that I fell in love with about two years ago. I recently discovered an eye wateringly expensive but very impressive dishwasher. If I buy the dishwasher I could keep my current very good double oven and buy a very nice hob and have good enough cooking facilities for all but maybe 3 days of the year (high days and holidays). I would relish the fuck out of the fuck off range for those three days though. If I buy the dishwasher, I would have happy dishwasher feelings on at least 350 (allowing for 2 weeks holidays) days of the year. I think practicality needs to win out here, doesn't it?

We just sold our brittania range very cheaply on ebay. There was nothing wrong with it but it did not work with our new kitchen extension. Have you looked at second hand options for the range? If you get a good quality one they last ages and you can always get it professionally cleaned.

I’d buy the cooker you love and a bog standard dishwasher. Sounds like your current dishwasher needs looking at or replacing - but I think they all suffer from the same thing: bits of food and grease get stuck in them and that affects their performance, I’d always go for a bog standard model for that reason alone, tbh.

dishwasher
hands down.

for big occasions you could get an additional hot plate and a halogen oven that don't clutter up the kitchen all year.

Range, because every single time the dishwasher leaves a dirty plate/mug etc, which it will no matter how fancy, you will face the crushing realisation that you should have bought the cooker.

You are probably over filling the dishwasher. Try putting about 25% less in. And clean/descale it regularly. Then you won't get the sand (which I also hate). We've had dishwashers nearing 30 years old and the sand is from overfilling.

Just buy an average dishwasher that works. Problem solved. No need for either eye watering expense or drama about hating an appliance "with the fury of a thousand suns".

I loathe washing up so I forgive mine the occasional rewash needed.

I’m assuming you mean a F&P dish drawer. SIL has one and seems to like it but I’m not that enamoured - it’s not that spacious and some things aren’t that clean after it. We have two bog standard dishwashers and they work fine. I put all sorts of things in them, not just plates.

So I’d choose the cooker, but I’m not a range person. For me it’s separate integrated ovens (standard sized oven plus combi micro oven), and an induction hob.

Definitely go for the range.

We bought a big standard dishwasher last year and it was on sale and it's perfect so I would definitely say go for the range, it'll make you happy each time you look at it

I don't understand why your dishwasher 'can't cope with anything more than a plate or a mug'.

We've had two dishwashers that cope with anything that's thrown at it. As we're very much of the 'life's too short to wash up' school of thought, everything goes in there including pans, baking trays, kitchen bin, extractor filters, oven door glass, etc etc and it just about all comes out clean except maybe the odd tray that had burnt bits left on. Any time that it's just 'normal' washing up, incl pans, it's all spotless. Our first dishwasher was a midrange Hotpoint that lasted 13 years and our second one was the cheapest available Bosch, that's currently about 5 years old and doing fine.

So I would definitely get a dishwasher, but see no need to get an eyewateringly expensive one, because they seem much of a muchness to me, although I do like the feature on our current one where you can run it without the top basket and put an extra spray attachment at the back to do big stuff.

But I wouldn't get the massive range if you already have a good cooking solution and would only really get use out of it a few days a year, unless you have loads of space.

@blacktop did you read the stealth boast post yesterday? That was my thought.

Haha no, I have actually just come across it now

If you're getting a new dishwasher, anyhow, then get the range. I have a 90cm wide one and, even though I don't use all the rings at once (one didn't even work for 2 years, after we moved in) love the extra space for big pans and the wok burner is amazing.

Do you have hard water, by any chance?

My £200 Beko Slimline dishwasher is excellent, no need to pay a lot. Washes everything perfectly, surely that is what matters not some fancy expensive make

Bog standard dishwasher
Get the range

don't get a range with a wide oven if you hate washing up.

Range for me but I've never owned and probably never will own a dishwasher. And I love cooking.

Get the range, it's a focal point in the kitchen. Love mine, it's beautiful..... And my bog standard dishwasher does the job.

Get the range oven and a fairly ordinary dishwasher. Save up for a new dishwasher if you hate the one you get. Sell fairly ordinary dishwasher. Put whistles and bells dishwasher in gap of ordinary dishwasher.

@margotsdevil

My current house has a range that came with the house. I LOVE it and dread the day that it expires as I'm not sure I'll ever be able to afford to replace it!

A dishwasher is also a key component of my kitchen, but honestly - at 9 years old I think you're just at the end of life of your current one and you'll be much happier with any new replacement - even a bog standard Bosch/Beko.

Don’t buy Bosch whatever you do. I ended up kicking ours so hard I dented the door. A nine year old dishwasher owes you nothing but remember the fancier they are, the greater the potential to go wrong.

Get the range and a cheaper dishwasher for sure.

[quote Mumdiva99]@blacktop did you read the stealth boast post yesterday? That was my thought. [/quote]
I've been seeing them everywhere 😂

Range cooker. I would have loved one like that but have a tiny galley kitchen so we got the best “normal” one and I use lots of the function all the time and I never go back to a normal 4 burner job as well.

The dishwasher - we do have a decent one but DH is happy to wash pots and pans by hand (I cook, he cleans) so apart from the odd small pot we just have the usual dishes, cutlery and cooking equipment in it and hardly ever have a problem unless there is a blockage.

What is the fancy dishwasher and where can I buy it?

Fisher and Paykel. Loads of stockists. It’s probably the double drawer model.