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Estranged family getting in touch

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Ilovetogarden1 · 02/08/2020 16:17

This is long...so thank you if you get to the end!

My dad left when I was about 4, pretty much never to be seen again. He left us in extremely difficult financial circumstances, mainly due to his business going bankrupt and the fact he was an alcoholic. My Grandad on his side wouldn’t have anything to do with me, as I was born out of wedlock. I have had nothing to do with his side of the family, apart from receiving a birthday card from my grandma once a year, that stopped when I was about 8. I presumed she had died - but recently I found out that wasn’t the case, so who knows why the cards stopped!

About two years ago, thanks to google (he had an odd name), I found out he had died a few years back. No one had told me. He died of complications from MS according to the internet!

So, fast forward to January. I’m now early 30s. I get a message out of the blue from my cousin, on behalf of my aunt and uncle, his sister, saying they have been trying to find me for ages and would I like to exchange some messages.

Now there are many reasons why this is strange. We haven’t moved house since the cards were sent, we’ve had the same home phone number since forever and my Facebook profile they found me through hasn’t changed since it was opened. My name is also easy enough to find on the internet. So I had so many questions about why now etc etc

I did meet with them. It we really odd, as they had fallen out of contact with him for about the 5 year period I was alive. But they didn’t know about his bankruptcy, the fact he was an alcoholic etc. I’m not going to go into detail, but I have many reasons to know these things happened and aren’t just my mums version of events.

My dad told his family he had left me a fully paid for house, which is why he didn’t contact me and they believed him! Apparently when he got ill after moving away he didn’t want me to think I had to care for him, hence no contact. And he didn’t feel guilty as I had the house!

My grandad on his side died a year after he did and my grandma died recently.

Anyway...to the point. After the initial meeting in February, Covid happened and helped put a break to things. However now I am being invited to see my aunt again and more of the family, including visiting my grandparents grave.

I really don’t know how I feel! They were nice enough people. But their views on him and mine are so different. His choices have massively impacted my life in a negative way, yet they talk about him like he was a saint.

I don’t feel I can just get over that and just “get on with it” to get to know relatives who are basically strangers. Especially when they didn’t contact me when they knew my dad had weeks to live. They are all really close on his side of the family and very religious.

I don’t want to hurt their feelings and I don’t want to miss an opportunity to make new connections, but it feels like the unanswered questions will be the elephant in the room.

I’d also have to go without my family, as it wouldn’t be the best idea to have some less forgiving members of my family in the same room as them! So being alone would be difficult.

Thank you if you got this far. I just don’t know what to feel and need a bit of reassurance I’m not just being sensitive!

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Tappering · 02/08/2020 16:27

Tough one.

Is there someone that seems reasonable, that you have a chat with and explain that you're happy to get to know them. However it's not a case of playing happy families as your memories of your Dad do not match theirs.

Disfordarkchocolate · 02/08/2020 16:32

What did they say when you told them the facts of your life and how your Fathers poor behaviour had impacted on it?

Ilovetogarden1 · 02/08/2020 16:45

@Tappering

That sounds like a really good idea. I almost feel like I’m going from seeing two new people to the whole family in one!

@Disfordarkchocolate

I think that’s one of the issues, they didn’t say much. But then my version was just so different to there’s, that I’m guessing they may just have been really shocked or maybe they didn’t believe me.

I hate confrontation, so I also made it clear I wasn’t blaming them for his choices etc.

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MayDayFightsBack · 02/08/2020 16:53

My experience of trying to build relationships with long lost relatives is that it is very tricky, can take ages and is not always that rewarding. The fact you say they are very religious also rings alarm bells as I hate all that guff and wouldn't want to be dragged into visiting the graves of grandparents who couldn't be arsed with me because I was 'shameful'. I also had a grandfather who rejected me because my parents were unmarried. I never really managed to forgive him as he never asked for forgiveness despite changing a lot in later life and being a decent enough grandfather when my mother married my stepfather. By the time he died we were estranged again and when he died I didn't really feel that much to be honest. You reap what you sow.

Unless you think these people are going to add joy to your life then I would think very carefully about whether you want any further contact. The potential for stress and aggro is high - you already seem to feel ambivalent and uncomfortable about it. The potential for real happiness to come from it is lower since it opens up all sorts of difficult memories for you. Don't be pushed into something you don't want.

Ilovetogarden1 · 02/08/2020 17:02

@MayDayFightsBack

I couldn’t have put it better myself - ambivalent and uncomfortable sum me up perfectly. You have given me some real food for thought.

I’m sorry your experience was difficult too. You are right - you do reap what you sow.

I am also not religious. In many ways it makes me laugh that they go to church each week, but can treat family like they did!!

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StripeyDeckchair · 02/08/2020 17:09

I dont think I would cut them off (yet, let's see what sort of people they turn out to be). However I would be clear that I want to take things slowly; more messages rather than meeting and that I have no interest in visiting the graves of grandparents who thought I was "shameful".

Their reaction to you response will tell you a lot about them.

MayDayFightsBack · 02/08/2020 17:16

No problem at all @Ilovetogarden1 I'm glad my post has been of some help. Smile

I have been lucky in one way, after many years of difficulty I have managed to build a good relationship with my father, but it has taken a lot of effort on his part to get to where we are now. He was genuinely sorry though, kept the door open when I was still angry with him and understood when I kept him at a distance until I felt ready to do otherwise, that was the difference. I still haven't built a close relationship with my half siblings though and that is a source of sadness to me. They live abroad and not growing up together (my dad divorced their mum when they were young so they didn't grow up with him much either) means we just don't have those shared experiences that bond siblings. We are polite and warm but not close, it takes a lot of effort to build those bonds if they don't grow naturally.

Amen to the stuff about churchgoers. Wink They're always the least Christian in my opinion!

Sssloou · 02/08/2020 17:16

Any chance there is money involved in some way - did your GPs or DF leave a will?

Ilovetogarden1 · 02/08/2020 17:22

@StripeyDeckchair

I think slow is definitely best. It’s odd as my initial response was of excitement, but as time has gone on, I feel more reluctant.

@MayDayFightsBack

I’m glad you have managed to form a good relationship with your father. You are right. It’s all the small stuff that helps create bonds between siblings.

@Sssloou

I know my dad didn’t have much and didn’t leave me anything - as when this was questioned by my aunt before his death, he said he had left me the house so I would be ok.

I have no idea about my GPs. I can’t imagine they would have put me in it.

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Sssloou · 02/08/2020 17:29

What is the legal status of your family home? Was it owned by him and he walked away? Have you seen his will?

Ilovetogarden1 · 02/08/2020 17:35

@Sssloou

Unfortunately his business was attached to the house, so we had to move out and my mum got very little from it, as most of the value went to pay off debts etc.

No I haven’t.

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Sunrise234 · 02/08/2020 17:35

This is really difficult!
On one hand I would say they’re not your dad so are not responsible for his actions so you don’t want to cut them off but I would be so angry knowing they think something which is wrong and painting him out to be an angel when he wasn’t.

Maybe as a PP suggested don’t cut them off just yet but keep them at arms length until you decide what’s best for you.

Ilovetogarden1 · 02/08/2020 17:42

@Sunrise234

That is true. I thinks it’s odd they didn’t ask more questions. Well not so much my aunt, but def my grandparents.
I don’t have any nieces or nephews to compare, but if one of my close friends moved away from their child - I would hope I would look a bit deeper to check the child they have left was ok. Rather than just take it all on face value! I feel they have chosen to let things go that maybe didn’t make sense!

For example, they told me his previous relationship had been difficult before my mum and that woman had taken all of his money and left him broke. Yet they believed that 6/7 years later he was leaving a fully mortgage free house to me!

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Icanflyhigh · 02/08/2020 17:50

Will being in touch with them add anything positive to your life now?
Have you missed them?

Very hard to advise as not in your position, but I think it has to be entirely your decision and not coerced by them at all.

I do understand how hard it is to hear someone being portrayed as a wonderful being when you know this is not quite right.

MoreSchnitzelPlease · 02/08/2020 17:56

This sounds like such a tough situation, I really feel for you. Why do they want you to visit the grave of your grandparents? I think that is a bizarre suggestion from them. Your grandmother abandoned you, and as far as you know, she did not regret her actions and she had no reason to cut contact with you. Why would your estranged family think you would want to go anywhere near her grave? It's not like she can answer your questions!

I don't think you should pretend that you are not hurt by the actions of your father and grandparents. If your estranged family want to be in contact with you, then your hurt needs to be acknowledged. It wouldn't be much of a relationship if they glossed over all of the bad stuff. From what you have said, any bad actions by your family outweighed the good when they were in your life. You cannot pretend otherwise. I am sorry if I have got that wrong, I don't want to out words in your mouth.

Ideasplease322 · 02/08/2020 18:08

So these people are your aunt and uncle. They made no attempt to build a relationship with you when you were a child.

Regardless of their views on your dad or what he told you that is pretty cold.

It’s not clear why they want a relationship now. But the important thing is what do you get out of it. You will probably never get that apology or acknowledgement that your dad was a wrong un and their family failed and abandoned you.

To be honest, I’m not sure I could be bothered with them. It seems to be about making themselves feel better.

BumbleBeee69 · 02/08/2020 18:10

I personally wouldn't entertain this further... sorry OP... cherish those who shared your 'actual' life.. Flowers

Ilovetogarden1 · 02/08/2020 18:11

@MoreSchnitzelPlease

You haven’t got anything wrong, you have summed it up perfectly!

To be fair, it came up in conversation when I met them in February. I said I may want to see my grandads grave one day, but I said it to be polite, I’m not sure I would get much out of it!!

It’s hard to share emotions with people I don’t know, but I do agree it has to be genuine otherwise it’s pointless!

@Icanflyhigh

I really haven’t missed them as wider family. I’m disappointed that my dad has died and I won’t be able to get to know his version of things and possibly create some sort of relationship.

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Fluffycloudland77 · 02/08/2020 18:36

I don’t see what you’d gain for continuing the relationship & it’s going to be hard hearing what a saint he was from them 🤨

VettiyaIruken · 02/08/2020 18:40

I may be cynical but I'd be thinking they're sniffing around for money. They may not believe you re the house.
I'd be very suspicious of them.

Sssloou · 02/08/2020 18:59

Yes - I think that there is a money agenda. Odd to bring up the previous RS and him being fleeced there as well. You can request to see his will through the official probate channels.

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