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Settle an argument... “The X Road” or just “X Road”

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XFPW · 18/07/2020 15:44

DH remarked today that he thinks it’s weird that I (and everyone I know) refers to certain roads as “The X Road” rather than just “X Road”.

Full disclosure I am from the place we now live, DH is not. He has regularly visited here for the last 25 years but only lived here since last year.

I don’t think it’s weird at all, and I never really saw it as a local thing, he is adamant that it must be a local thing because it’s not something he has heard other people do before now. (I will admit that I don’t really remember people where we used to live doing it, but that doesn’t mean it’s weird!)

I would never say “Belmont Road” or “Gransha Road” or “Cotton Road” for instance - they would all naturally have a “The” in front of them.

Is this weird? Is it a local only thing? (Deliberately not saying where I’m from so I can see if it’s local only or not from the responses!)

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XFPW · 18/07/2020 15:46

(Although I’m sure some local people might recognise the names of the roads and therefore work out where I am!

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YesItsMeIDontCare · 18/07/2020 15:47

Round my way the main roads in to the city tend to have "the" in front of them. You would never write it though.

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TyrionsNextWife · 18/07/2020 15:47

I think it’s a local thing, I’ve never heard people using street names like that.

Tlollj · 18/07/2020 15:49

I only say the London Road. Not for any other.

DartmoorChef · 18/07/2020 15:50

Regional thing. It happens here in Devon and it was quite common when I lived in London too.

nancy75 · 18/07/2020 15:52

Some roads have a ‘the’ & some don’t, everyone where I live would say THE old Kent road but nobody would say THE Tottenham Court Road. Not really sure why some get a THE & others don’t

catbellz · 18/07/2020 15:52

Nah, I live on Church Road not The Church Road. I'd say "the main road" if I was stopped for directions etc but that's not it's name.

GreyishDays · 18/07/2020 15:55

Nope. Would just say it how it’s written. Never heard anyone add a ‘The’ with the exception of major city, so The London Road.

GreyishDays · 18/07/2020 15:56

Should have said that’s Yorkshire and Scotland.

tectonicplates · 18/07/2020 15:59

I hate it when people do this. It's one of my little annoyances.

TSSDNCOP · 18/07/2020 16:01

SE: would say The if the road is going somewhere eg The City Road, The London Rd these are normally A roads.

Wouldn't say The Butterfield Road eg just a road where my auntie Maureen lives.

Bloodybridget · 18/07/2020 16:03

It's a weird thing though. I think in London people often used to say 'The King's Road' and 'The Cromwell Road' - in fact Noel Streatfeild has the Fossils walking along the latter in Ballet Shoes - but maybe not so much now?

tectonicplates · 18/07/2020 16:05

Also it's only done with certain roads but not others, and I've never been able to work out a pattern. For example in London, Euston Road is sometimes referred to as "The Euston Road", but Tottenham Court Road is always left as is. Nobody would ever say "The Oxford Street", yet people frequently say "The Old Kent Road" and there's even a song about it! Why is this?

BackforGood · 18/07/2020 16:06

A big (usually A) road going into your City, or out of your City does tend to be know as "The London Road" "The old Leeds Road" or whatever, but ordinary streets are known as 'Acacia Ave" "Beech Crescent" "AnnaSeacole Way" "Laberneum Road" etc, without and 'the' in front of them, where I live

ShowOfHands · 18/07/2020 16:06

Only when it refers to the destination at the end of said road. So we have a Dereham Rd here and it is The Dereham Rd colloquially as it leads to Dereham and presumably, has been called that for hundreds of years, prior to adopting an official name iyswim.

MrsWooster · 18/07/2020 16:12

Same as pp- We have The Otley Road, which goes to Otley, but side roads off there would just be Smith Road, or Jones Road.

longwayoff · 18/07/2020 16:12

Roads going to/from specific destination eg London to Edgware are 'the' roads, the one road you would once have taken to get to Edgware from London, rather than a diverse and roundabout route. Side roads, avenues, lanes etc. aren't 'the' road to anywhere in particular.

BobbinThreadbare123 · 18/07/2020 16:14

Is it the Scotty Road in Liverpool? AKA Scotland Road? You have to put a 'the' on loads of things Grin

XFPW · 18/07/2020 16:17

Interesting! I live in none of the places mentioned so it clearly isn’t only specific to my locality, even if it is regional to some areas.

I agree about the roads leading to places, but where I am, some roads just get it regardless. So in my initial example - Gransha isn’t a place, but it’s definitely The Gransha Road. Similarly, The Warren Road, The Kylestone Road, The Stockbridge Road, The Tullynagardy Road.

Oddly though, a local Church Road doesn’t get a The.

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XFPW · 18/07/2020 16:20

And it’s definitely only Roads that get a The - never Avenues, Parks, Lanes, Drives etc.

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NoSquirrels · 18/07/2020 16:20

It’s a thing pretty much everywhere for some roads, - the Oxford Road, the Old Kent Road, the Mile End Road, the Belmont Road... I can think of loads.

We’d say ‘It’s on the Euston Road, turn right down Acacia Street’ for example.

(Pedant alert: It would never have a capital T for The, though, because it’s a figure of speech not a part of the official name.)

AdaColeman · 18/07/2020 16:21

It's usually only main roads out of your own town or village to another destination that have "The" in front, The Carlisle Road for instance, or a general direction such as The Coast Road or The West Road.

Ordinary street names don't have "The" added, so it must be a local dialect habit, so I agree with your DH.

TeenPlusTwenties · 18/07/2020 16:24

Well, I would definitely give directions by saying 'Go up The Stockbridge Road, turn left after The Bear and Ragged Staff and the entrance is about 500 yards on the right'.

I would say we use 'The' when a road had its name before roads had formal names so they were descriptive names rather than random housing developer names.

Knittedfairies · 18/07/2020 16:24

I'd put a 'the' if the road was going somewhere; so the London road or the Manchester road if they actually ended up in London or Manchester. Not for residential streets/roads though.

TwoZeroTwoZero · 18/07/2020 16:24

I have never heard anyone say "the" before a road name. Everyone I've ever spoken to would just say, for example, Wakefield Road, Barnsley Road, Doncaster Road on whatever.