Is Scotland a nicer place to live?

[Mrsemcgregor]

I think I’ve had it with England. The whining and moaning, the selfishness the entitlement.

I don’t want to live here anymore, is Scotland any better? Or is there a corner of England where things aren’t as horrible as where I live (middle class up it’s own arse town in the southwest)?

I’m so sad

Yes, Scotland is a place where everything is the same, in every single part of the country. Nobody ever whines and moans and we have a standard way of thinking across the country.

Oh, there is no need to be sarcastic. I’m genuinely interested to know if Scotland is a nice place to live.

I live in Scotland, but have lived in England and several other countries too in the past. If your wanting to live in a place near other humans you will encounter selfishness, moaning etc regardless of the country

I live in Scotland. Fairly rural. Nice place. Good school. Good people (mostly).

I get your post!

Ok, so it’s no nicer? That’s all I wanted to know.

I thought I had heard people saying that generally people are a bit more considerate to each other in Scotland and that it was a lovely country to live in. Clearly I was naive in believing that.

Oh well.

@Mightymurphy

I live in Scotland. Fairly rural. Nice place. Good school. Good people (mostly).

I get your post!

Thank you

Scotlands a lovely place to live. I would love to move back there.

Although i am not sure now if the anti English sentiment that I see on here would be an issue for you.

Its not the country I left

It’s hard to say if we are nicer, as we haven’t experienced what you have, or haven’t lived where you live.

I find my neighbours, family, friends and colleagues to be tolerant and accommodating, and certainly the Scottish government makes it very clear that if you wish to live in Scotland you can consider yourself Scottish and be welcomed.

However, don’t have rose tinted glasses - there are who gets everywhere.

What kind of lifestyle do you want? Where would you like to live?

I'm in Scotland. Fair amount of whining and moaning - we're not referred to as 'dour' for nothing. But lots of lovely space. Although the weather can be a bit shit. But, we have the best pies. But, midges. I dunno.....

@Timeforanotherusername anti English sentiment from the Scottish towards the English? I did wonder about that. I can’t say I blame them, we are not coming off very well at the moment. But I wouldn’t want to live somewhere I’m not wanted.

@Mrsemcgregor

Ok, so it’s no nicer? That’s all I wanted to know.

I thought I had heard people saying that generally people are a bit more considerate to each other in Scotland and that it was a lovely country to live in. Clearly I was naive in believing that.

Oh well.

Oh Mrsemcgregor , if only that were true. I have lived in many places across the world, but never England. We Scots like to moan and grump and boy are we quick to take offence. Same as pretty much every where else I have lived 😂

Despite what those who subscribe to the Scottish exceptionalism myth will tell you there is very little difference between English and Scottish people. There are selfish whining arseholes everywhere.

@CormoranStrike that’s an interesting question, what kind of lifestyle would I like?

To live in a place where being genuine is normal? Not living around people who are massively up themselves and entitled. Open space and less people. My town is very classist, it would be nice to get away from that.

I don’t know, I think I’m having a bad time at the moment.

@Graffitiqueen maybe what I’m looking for is a private island?!

@Graffitiqueen maybe what I’m looking for is a private island?!

The whining and moaning

Oh the irony

@LaureBerthaud

The whining and moaning

Oh the irony

I know! I’m really down in the dumps today. Need to snap out of it, I don’t think the kids need to see me crying.

I think it will depend on where you go.
Some council estate on the outskirts of glasgow is going to be quite a different experience to a little lochside village or a rural croft

Glasgow and surrounding areas are pretty grounded.

@Mrsemcgregor you may be able to find that happy place closer to home or with some lifestyle
Changes.

But also, lockdown is putting enormous strain on us all, so while it may give clarity on what we don’t like, a knee jerk “move country” option may be extreme.

We’ve talked about moving to England if Nicola gets her independence.

See all this anti English sentiment it’s probably much the same as the Scottish people get in England. I have plenty of English friends and colleagues and the only ones that get a hard time are the knobs who would get a hard time regardless of their place of birth.
Now no doubt doubt someone will come along and tell us how their BIL/DH gets anti English slurs but in all my 52 years it’s not something that I’ve come across.
To answer your question OP Scottish people tend to tell it how it is with a smile but are in the whole much more welcoming tan the other few countries that I have lived in.
We have in general a great sense of humour, well apart from the Doric area and we’ll talk the back legs of a donkey.
Up you come and if your nice and not a knob you’ll be welcomed with open arms.
Just don’t complain about the weather mind

There really isn't that much anti-English sentiment any more. It's much less now than 20yrs ago imo. We've got used to having other migrants as well, so it is becoming more mixed (in places). Definitely don't base a decision on any perception of an anti-English sentiment, that no longer exists. (the racists have moved on to new targets).

There is the Anti-Westminster sentiment (ie SNP) in patches too, but in normal life, people are just people, and mind their own business.

Lots of Scotland is scenic and pretty (green, hills, wildlife, outdoor stuff), but lots is horrid little old-fashioned towns. There is much less facilities here - due to geography, your hospital will be farther away, shopping centres will be smaller, public transport sh#ttier.

Bear in mind the law is different here - alcohol driving levels etc, Covid_19 laws, School system, lots if things.

Come and visit! You cannot base a major re-locating decision without stepping foot in the place.

And there will be loads more room with all the people who will move south if Scotland gains ..... not Nicola, the people decide to vote for an independence because of course those that don’t want it can’t possibly stay

I live in Edinburgh, basically the most beautiful city on earth. Plenty of arseholes here, as there are anywhere. I don't think Scotland as a whole has a particularly distinct personality that separates it from England, I'd go by area.

I don't think you'd like rural Fife much.