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I don't know what to do anymore

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Rainingdogsandcats · 30/06/2020 07:54

Been married 15 years, together for 18 and a half. 4 DC , 2 from before. 6 in total.

I've posted under different names about DH before. I'm a sahm which kind of happened a little through necessity ( had bad experience with a cm who we think hurt our baby 16 years ago) and choice. I wanted to go back to work several times over the years but dh was building a business and made it impossible for me to do. Not supporting with sharing childcare etc. It was an issue and I tried to address it lots of times.

He's been financially controlling. He gives me housekeeping each month and he pays for everything. I have some pocket money coming in through a small home business but it isn't regular or much. It's coffee money. DH doesn't even know that I have a credit card for emergencies. He'd go mad if he knew.

He's not abusive but he's been cold and isn't a openly loving kind of person although I know he loves me in his own way.

He works long, long hours all week. He doesn't talk to us much, doesn't interact with our amazing teens and doesn't seem to like us much a lot of the time. I've tried to talk to him but he says the teens are disrespectful and I let them get away with murder. I absolutely don't but I do pick my battles. I have brought them up single handedly for the past 15 years whilst he worked. I get that I'm lucky to be at home with them but it's a gilded cage and I've completely lost myself. He told me that the parson he gets on best with is our eldest son ( not his bio child, he's 22). All DC are at home right now with lockdown. Eldest is 25.

We haven't had sex for over a year. We had sex twice on holiday last year. Before that it was 2 years. I'm 50. So is he. I've tried to talk about it over and over, I've bought lingerie, told him I wasn't happy, tried to tell him that I don't want to live like this and that this can't work forever. He never listened. He said he wasn't interested in sex with me or anyone else. He didn't want to see or speak to a counsellor. After many months I stopped trying after getting fed up of being rejected. I should have left him. I didn't. The older kids went through the mill with their bio father, I couldn't face it again. I've been married 3 times, I couldn't face that again. One of our DC is autistic, I couldn't put them through that. I stayed. I'm not brave.

At the beginning of this year I took back control of my life. I've lost 2 stone out of the 3 I needed to lose so far. I've made some new friends through groups and I've started fitness. I've started standing up to dh and become less bothered about what happens if I speak up. The kids think I've lost the plot.

So suddenly dh decided last week that we need to sort out our marriage and now he fancies me, and wants to fix our marriage. Wants to be physical and wants to talk about it. He's apologised for his behaviour over the years. All great you might think. Happy days.

Except I'm not feeling it now. I'm beyond angry that just because he's decided yet again that now he wants to do something about it we have to do something. I don't want to and can't suddenly feel like having sex with him. He's said I need to tell him whether I want to fix things.

I don't know if I do now. It feels like it's too late. He says he'll understand if that's the case but I feel like he's putting it on me now whether to save our marriage or break it up. I'm so conflicted. I feel that the kids would be devastated if I break up the family and I know he'll be completely devastated too and I feel selfish for feeling like this. Like I should try to fix it.

I feel under pressure from DH to fix it all. He's said he'll do anything to make it right.

I've been through so much shit in my life I don't know if I can do it all again at my age but I can't just happily go back to 10 years ago. I'd kind of just accepted the sexless marriage. I could leave when the kids are older. Now I've been sent into a tailspin.

It would be great to hear from people maybe who could cast fresh eyes or tell me they've done it, left a long term marriage and it's been ok.

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Rainingdogsandcats · 30/06/2020 08:33

Anyone?

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Reluctantbettlynch · 30/06/2020 08:42

The kids need a happy mum. Never ever stay for the kids. I've been the child and it was so much better when they finally split up.
I would also tell him to fuck off after he threw your previous efforts back in your face. He had chances. He is now worried someone else may show interest, and he may lose you

Rainingdogsandcats · 30/06/2020 08:45

That's exactly what he said. He said I'm not interested in anyone else and I think you will be.

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RickOShay · 30/06/2020 08:48

This is tricky. You talk about how he feels about you, how do you feel about him? Do you still fancy him?
Have you told him how you feel about the financial arrangements?
Do you want to spend time with him?

rightguard2020 · 30/06/2020 08:48

Would he try a counsellor now? So you could talk though your feelings and explain what you’re feeling now? Might be worth a try?

Also - why should you fix it?

RickOShay · 30/06/2020 08:50

It’s not just your responsibility to fix your marriage. Would you consider joint counselling?
What ideally would you like to happen now?

Cauterize · 30/06/2020 08:58

Well firstly your children are all adults right, or all very close to adulthood? You say they'll be devastated but surely they can see that he's not exactly been a stellar father and husband? Wouldn't they rather you were happy?

Personally I think the marriage is over. You must start thinking about yourself, like you said you've been in a gilded cage. Now is your opportunity to change your life without your husband like a dead weight around your neck!

Rainingdogsandcats · 30/06/2020 09:00

At the moment I feel like I wouldn't miss him if he didn't live with us. He's been so absent anyway that it doesn't feel as if it would make any difference. He's never been to a single parents evening, a sports day, a school performance. Ever. Never taken them to the doctors, the dentist. It feels like we're all a constant disappointment to him. He's said this last week that that's not so and he's sorry for all of that.

He has started telephone counselling. I've been asking him for years to try counselling.

I don't want to spend time with him right now because I feel under constant pressure to be affectionate.

I've told him time and time again about the financial situation and he just says have I ever said no when you've asked for anything.

I don't really fancy him if I'm brutally honest but do you after so many years together?

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EinsteinaGogo · 30/06/2020 09:00

ENORMOUS congratulations on getting your own mojo back. What you've done is incredible - do not underestimate that, you've done something amazing.

I think the counselling is a great idea - but i would do it just for you, by yourself. Figure out what YOU want.

Ultimately - he's kept you in a physical and financial box for your whole relationship. That's no life for you. He won't change long term, in my experience. He's just frightened that the worm has turned and is clutching at straws to keep his housekeeper / life like he likes it.

Rainingdogsandcats · 30/06/2020 09:00

Our DC are 9, 13,15, 17, 22 and 25

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EinsteinaGogo · 30/06/2020 09:03

@Rainingdogsandcats
'Do you still fancy each other after many years together?'

Yes - absolutely. Maybe not exactly in the frantic, early years way, but definitely in the loving, caring, enjoyable way.

RickOShay · 30/06/2020 09:04

Ok. I think you can still fancy your partner after years together. I agree with a pp, how would you feel about counselling for yourself? Would he support that?

pinkbowl · 30/06/2020 09:06

I also spent many years trying to engage my ex husband in family life. It was like he had disconnected from us and I felt the rejection myself daily.
I would ask him to work with me to fix our marriage but he was unable/umwilling to do so.
Like you, he only took notice when i stopped bothering. When I challenged his comments and coldness rather than internalising the damage I was released from my sadness.
When he let me down emotionally I had other support networks there. I was stronger.
Anyway, he wanted to have sex again with this fiesty, funny, somthing to say lady. But that had died for me. Our emotional connection was too damaged. And the resentment I felt towards him, that had built over the last 18 years was too much to overcome.
We have divorced and we are honestly happier without eachother.
The children were devastated to begin but I was strong enough to prop it all up emotionally.
Life is short. I honestly have no regrets.
Just because he wants to try now, pressure is on you? He didn't seem to go out of his way when you were desperatly trying to fix things.
You both need chance to reset.
How is your communication together?
(Mine and my ex's was piss poor and that was probably the crux of our problems)

MushroomTree · 30/06/2020 09:07

Honestly, leave him. The kids will cope. The older ones must know exactly what he's like and the younger ones will figure it out sooner rather than later.

Don't waste the rest of your life on this man. You're only 50.

You've been asking him for years to put more effort into the relationship and he ignored you. Now he thinks you might be attractive to someone else he wants to keep hold of you.

You say he's not abusive, but he is.

Rainingdogsandcats · 30/06/2020 09:12

pink owl this is us exactly. Our communication is rubbish. It always has been. I've tried and tried and now i feel exactly how you describe. My anger and resentment is so much that even now fixing it is because he's decided that he wants to.

Another problem is were supposed to be moving house in 3 weeks. We sold our house just before lockdown.

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pinkbowl · 30/06/2020 09:35

In our situation he asked that we both make an effort for a time (several months) and write down what we need from one another to make it work. (Still all on his terms but I had leared that if I wanted anything I had to let him think it was his idea)
We made our lists and went ahead. Inevitably these broke down after several weeks and old behaviours (red flags) were creeping back in.
With hindsight I think it was a good exercise in preparing us for splitting up. It set a line in the sand.
Regarding the house move, are you commited to another purchase?

Rainingdogsandcats · 30/06/2020 10:07

We have offered, are 3 weeks away from exchanging.

I have no money. No income. I'm not on the house deeds. I'm not on the mortgage for the new house.

My DH also needs to think everything is his idea to do anything and resists anything that we suggest

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SWnewstart · 30/06/2020 10:13

I can empathise with a lot of your comments. To be honest, I'd progress with the house move, settle in with the DC's (however long they may be with you during the Covid situation), be pleasant / sociable etc with your husband - if you don't fancy physical then play for time - he has to understand you can't just "flick a switch for sex". In the background, start planning for your future without him. You have an inkling of what you can achieve independently and this is the tip of the iceberg of how your new life could be. The DCs will be fine and, in years to come, proud of you for making your life better. Be strong, you CAN do this without a partner who, actually, I think is playing games and will never really change. You're worth so much more and deep down you must know this (and you sound a lovely person too).

Limpid · 30/06/2020 10:16

So someone who actively blocked you working for years and didn't help bring up your children has suddenly checked back into your marriage, hopes you develop amnesia about the last fifteen years and wants to shag you?

You can see where I'm going with this one.

SomethingPhishy · 30/06/2020 10:20

Not being on deeds or mortgage etc doesnt matter if you are married as assets are joint.

It does sound difficult. I would tell DH you would like to pay for your own counselling first. Good luck.

bluebell34567 · 30/06/2020 10:23

he is too late. and btw he finished the marriage with his behaviour up to now. it wont be your fault.
i would leave him.

Rainingdogsandcats · 30/06/2020 10:39

limpid that actually made me laugh thank you.

I know I have to and I do take responsibility for the fact that I knew I should have left a long time ago and I didn't. I wasn't brave enough and I totally accept that.

I think I will go ahead with the move and try and get my ducks in a row. I've told him I don't want to have sex and can't just turn on the affection after so long. He said he understands but then asks if he can cuddle me in bed so I do feel under immense pressure.

I'm going to arrange my own counselling and also try and speak to a solicitor. Is it a thing that you can get a free session or did I dream that?

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pinkbowl · 30/06/2020 11:11

It's ok to say you don't feel ok with cuddles in bed. Perhaps tell him an intimate relationship will be the final piece of the jigsaw.
Your plan sounds good so far. I had a free sesion with a solicitor who informed me of my rights to the marital assets (house split, savings split and his pension pot split). Information is power. Told me I pay her bill when the settlement is made so my zero bank ballance didn't need to keep me trapped. I went for a house sale and clean break agreement as I wanted to be free of him totally.

We were together 20 years in total and for a long time I though that was how it just had to be.
As i said, no regrets here. I'm now in a great relationship with a partner who has shown me what love really looks like (and our communication is refreshingly simple).

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