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School polo shirt- What is happening!?!

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WineLover600 · 12/06/2020 00:48

So today yet another of the local State schools near me have Announced that they will be Retiring the school polo shirt (worn by pupils for 30 years) in favour of a blazer and tie. Why are so many schools all of a sudden banning polo shirts. Earlier this year at a school that only allows polo shirts as a privilege for year 11s have also said they will no longer be allowed and will be required to wear the same uniform as the rest of the school. Am I missing something? Does it effect the Ofsted rating or something?

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DappledThings · 12/06/2020 16:11

£50 for an entire year, possibly longer in my experience

Definitely should be longer. I wore a blazer from year 3 to year 11. Only 2 different ones though.

BiBabbles · 12/06/2020 16:12

It'll be interesting to see if ties get dropped or other changes when they go back.

I grew up with schools having dress codes (which no matter how lax, had students pushing) rather than uniforms, but I don't particularly mind either way. My daughter was annoyed last winter when an acting-head decided it looked smarter if they took off and carried around their coats before they entered the building.

No thoughts on polos vs shirts, but I wish either way that they weren't white. I know it's meant to be easier to bleach out stains and brighten, but I've never gotten that to work by the time they've gotten home to me, had a very awkward time when my son tossed in his red hoodie into a load once, and seeing how see-through they get after a wash, I do worry a bit when it's really wet out. Dark shirts I think would be nicer.

ktp100 · 12/06/2020 16:26

In no way helpful at all but I'd be glad to see the back of the polo at my son's school. I think they look really chavvy.

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reluctantbrit · 12/06/2020 16:27

I am German so uniform is in my view absolutely pointless and a whole country is the proof that you don’t need stuffy uniform to succeed in school.

DD’s secondary one is eye watering expensive, one set, blazer, skirt, jumper, was £150, the blazer is dry clean only. All, including the special open neck shirts, is polycottom, when she comes home, she stinks and needs a shower. Don’t even start with ridiculous PE kit requirements.

Since schools are closed she wears T-shirt, hoody or jumper and jeggings. Strangely enough she still learns and passes her tests decently.

bigbluebus · 12/06/2020 16:32

The Secondary school my DS went to switched to blazers, shirt and tie a couple of years ago when the new Headteacher took over (he was already at the school and was promoted). I don't really understand the need for the change. DS managed fine in polo shirts and sweatshirts all of which had the school logo on.

When I was at school (a looooong time ago), we had blazers but they were optional and most people wore shirt, tie and jumper. But if you had a blazer, you bought a plain blazer from the High Street (M&S used to stock them) and bought the school badge to sew onto the breast pocket. Then when you needed a new blazer you just bought another generic one from the High Street and transferred the badge. I woud like to see a similar system bought back if schools are going to insist on ridiculously expensive logoed uniform. Technology has moved on since I was at school so it wouldn't necessarily mean sewing - although I'm sure most people could manage to sew a badge on once every 2-3 years per child! They could even teach their child to do it!

Yurona · 12/06/2020 16:34

@reluctantbrit i’m german as well - and love uniform. I spent 13 years at school getting bullied horrendously because my parents couldn’t afford the Fashion jeans, t-shirts, backpacks and coats. Its fine if you either have rich parents or a school that isn’t interested in fashion, but otherwise its hell. I know a lot of people with the same experience. Give me uniform any day!

CountFosco · 12/06/2020 16:40

I grew up in rural Scotland and never wore uniform. Despite this I managed to go to Oxford (where I also didn't wear a uniform) and now am a senior scientist (where I also don't wear a uniform). DH went to a private school in a city where he had to wear a fancy uniform, we had very similar grades in our Highers and met while studying our PhDs. He is a senior software engineer and also doesn't wear a uniform.

DD2 is in Y6 and back at school. They don't have to wear uniform because they have to wear clean clothes every day. She's wearing leggings and hoodies which are comfortable and practical. DD1 is at secondary and is enjoying wearing what she wants while homeschooling. I really hope one of the outcomes of the pandemic is that schools and Ofsted realise that school uniforms add no value and are expensive and bad for the environment due to children needing casual clothes and school clothes. Nevermind the sexualisation of schoolgirls in their tiny skirts.

QuestionableMouse · 12/06/2020 16:53

Stuff like taking coats off is just so stupid. It's impractical (especially in the wet) and just so pointless.

reluctantbrit · 12/06/2020 17:09

@Yurona we experienced this with bags and mobile phones, sadly already in year 6.

Uniform just moves the topic from clothes to other items.

myself2020 · 12/06/2020 17:12

@reluctantbrit our school has school backpack, coat etc. its awesome

eurochick · 12/06/2020 17:24

It's such a backwards move - at a time when even before we were working from home in casual clothes an awful lot of workplaces were moving to dress down/business casual/dress for your day policies. It's not readying kids for the world of work anymore - quite the opposite.

DappledThings · 12/06/2020 17:45

Do schools really use dressing for work as a reason for having uniform? I don't think ours did. It was more about having everyone dressed the same so we had a school identity and nobody bad to think much about it.

I would have hated not having a uniform. It was bad enough not having one in 6the form.

alexdgr8 · 12/06/2020 17:45

i think it should go back to how it was years ago.
nobody in infant school wore uniform.
in junior school we wore school tie with grey/ white/ blue shirt/ blouse.
navy or black or grey shorts for boys, skirts or tunic for girls.
secondary was similar; school tie, and a blazor with sewn-on badge if wished. just dark boring clothes, bought from anywhere, with identifying tie.

i think a PP above had it right. was it letthemysterybe, pp.
that this is because of academies run for profit, no real interest in children or their individual welfare or prospects. and an exclusive uniform as a way of filtering out those who cannot afford it. disgrace.

DappledThings · 12/06/2020 17:50

i think it should go back to how it was years ago.
nobody in infant school wore uniform

How long ago? I wore uniform in infant school in the early 80s and I don't think that was unusual. Proper uniform of skirt, shirt and tie. Juniors was the same but with added blazer. These were non-standard schools across the country in Kent, Cumbria and Warwickshire.

toinfinityandlockdown · 12/06/2020 17:53

This annoys me so much. My child’s primary school has done this. It’s impractical, wastes time and energy on ironing and why have 4 year olds in ties! Just why? They aren’t mini economic units.

toinfinityandlockdown · 12/06/2020 17:54

Oh and me and my husband have had good jobs that don’t ever involve wearing a shirt.... it’s hardly the moniker of success.

Aroundtheworldin80moves · 12/06/2020 17:54

My primary school uniform, in the 90s was a t-shirt and any bottoms.

TreestumpsAndTrampolines · 12/06/2020 18:07

My kids go to a non-uniform school. No discipline problems, all the kids look comfortable, no need for the parents to spend out on special clothes for school which is great for those at the school who are short on money. They ask the parents once a year if they want to change to have a uniform of some sort and every year it's a no.

I used to like uniforms, thought my kid looked so sweet, but no uniform saves me so much time and hassle. No uniform all the way now.

HelloJohnGotANewMotor · 12/06/2020 18:14

I blame academies. The LEAs could influence schools to keep uniforms more basic in order to keep costs down. Academies can do as they please it would appear and it is VERY difficult for parents to have their objections heard objectively. Not just about uniforms- academies have far too much freedom. Just wait til they change to a 4.5 day week ......for example.

NewName54321 · 12/06/2020 19:26

It could be argued that having an expensive uniform creates a barrier to entry whereby families have to, literally, buy into the school's ethos.

It dissuades those families not prepared to conform to the school’s uniform requirements from applying for places and gives a measurable indicator of behaviour and attitude, which influences Ofsted gradings. Parental attitudes heavily influence pupil behaviour, so in one swoop the school potentially removes a percentage of potentially less-compliant pupils by discouraging their parents from applying in the first place.

In the same stroke, uniform cost also discourages lower-income families from applying for places. Overall, children from disadvantaged families do less well academically so the school attracts fewer children who are less likely to reach the academic targets the school is measured by, and it also needs to spend less money in subsidising pupils from families who are struggling financially.

[These are obviously generalisations and there will always be high-achieving pupils from disadvantaged backgrounds and well-behaved pupils with unsupportive parents, but not, and certainly not perceived to be, the majority.]

Higher Ofsted gradings, better exam results and good local opinion are key factors that parents use when choosing schools, so it becomes a self-fulfilling pattern at next-to no cost to the school itself.

It's not right, but that does not mean it doesn’t happen.

bluefoxmug · 12/06/2020 19:33

I don't think uniform are a 'leveller' either.
you get the children with new uniform items each term, well fitting. or on the other spectrum children with ill fitting hand me downs that are very thin at knees and elbows.

happymummy12345 · 12/06/2020 19:47

I hate polo shirts. My son is starting reception this year and his uniform is a proper shirt tie and jumper. I love it. I don't see the problem with primary school children wearing them at all. I think it looks incredibly smart, and very cute on younger ones I wish I could have worn something like that when I was at primary school.

madnessitellyou · 12/06/2020 20:45

My DD’s doesn’t have a uniform. The students dress perfectly sensibly and shockingly the school gets really excellent results. It’s been a real eye opener. Like a pp, having no uniform is so much less hassle.

Blackbear19 · 13/06/2020 10:17

In a school with very mixed income levels uniform does help to do away with kids wanting the right designer labels.

I think polos are fine for primary and I can understand high schools wanting to smarten things up a bit.
Blazers do look smart and the pockets are handy but rules about not taking them off on a hot day are just stupid.

Billyjoearmstrong · 13/06/2020 10:42

My sons old secondary did away with polo shirts in favour of stiff collar shirts and blazers. Luckily he was in year 11 so was exempt.

It’s madness.

I’ve never ironed a polo shirt - just hang out or in the drier and it’s fine. What a faff having to iron.

But some parents do judge a school in uniform. I’d just rather my child was comfortable to be honest.

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