10 million on waiting lists for NHS treatments by the end of the year.

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How utterly depressing.
So many people are going to die, the ripple effects of covid are far and wide.
How on earth will the NHS cope or process this?
Given historical delivery of services from the NHS, what will the future look like?
Sad sad day of announcements in this awful time,
Our beloved NHS. What can be done?

I’m front line NHS with multi skill set, worked in different departments and if I can help anywhere I will.
I’ve held dual contracts in different areas, I’m willing to do that again, it’s the only thing I can think of as an individual that I can do to help.
I worry, I want to turn tail and run from the MHS with this information..even more so.

I personally feel as though the way we have dealt with coronavirus has caused/will cause more problems than coronavirus did/would have.

But I'm sure Boris will remember how grateful he is to have received prompt, effective NHS care and will pump a shitload of money in so that everyone else can have the same, definitely.

These are not the ripple effects of Covid. These are are the ripple effects of decades of under-investment. The waiting lists were already unbearably long before this. The same thing happened over the winter of 17/18 - already massive waiting lists got even bigger because the NHS had to divert resources to flu. This might be worse than that time now - but it certainly isn't anything new. There is no "quick fix" because you cannot expand a health service that quickly without massive investment. And that simply isn't going to happen.

Sorry, but "our beloved NHS" hasn't been protected by the people for decades, and whole mess is the result. Clapping for ten weeks doesn't change the fact that all most people did about the NHS for the last two decades was whinge, complain about wasteful public services, and demand cuts in taxes. Welcome to the world we made....

Yep. This is of our own making.

No nurses, no Drs, crumbling buildings, no money for equipment, misuse of services, these are the reasons.
What is the answer though?

No nurses, no Drs, crumbling buildings, no money for equipment, misuse of services, these are the reasons.

Brown/Blair trebled NHS spending - where did all that money go?

Throwing money at the NHS will not work until all the petty bureaucracy, inefficient processes and lazy managers and admin staff are cleared out or dealt with.

I worked for the council for 10 years and volunteered at CAB for 3 years, now I work for a private company.

The difference in a non profit and profit making organisation is astounding. If something needs to change, it doesn’t go through 10 layers of management and endless meetings where’s there’s no decision making or outcomes as no one wants to be help responsible.

P.s. the abuse of the NHS has to stop.

People being so wet they go the ASR’s with every tiny sniffle, not seeking a pharmacists advice first, getting camolonr lotion on prescription, turning up at A and E with ailments that a pharmacists or GP should be dealing with, calling ambulances when they could make their own way to hospital they just don’t want to pay

@Jimdandyq absolutely agree!!! I work in the NHS and we've had about 5 members of staff retire, and we've hired 3 senior management level staff, but only 1 practical on the floor worker. Right now we're actually quiet, but it's been a welcome break tbh as we've been so over worked lately!

It will cost lives. Covid, plus underinvestment, chronic inefficiency.
All those managers ......
Our local A&E they are all paid through an agency. How is that cost effective?

The answer is better procurement practices, giving hospitals appropriate staff and powers to be able to tell people who rock up to A&E with a small cut to go home rather than waste everyone's time, to cut out some of the needless processes and referral cycles, bring back bursaries and no fees for nursing degrees so that all nurses aren't put under as much pressure due to low numbers, don't always buy the shiny new equipment unless it's genuinely needed and not just for a PR exercise, more thorough prescription reviews so that people don't keep collecting tablets in with their other items as they haven't bothered to say they don't need them anymore, the list goes on...

It's scary.bit makes me wonder those who can afford to seek private treatment if they will or not or will more people not turn to private health care.

I’m scared. I had a pre-op appt cancelled the day before lockdown for an operation I’ve been waiting for for 2 years. I’m in pain and struggling to walk some days. Incant spend another 2 years like this.

Covid has highlighted NHS managers couldn't run a piss up in a brewery.

The whole thing shut down for all but covid and is returning to normal at a snail's pace. Meanwhile some medical staff have barely anything to do.

It needs a massive kick up the arse to start treating people again in serious numbers - not just the trickle they deem worthy.

It's 3 months since they were swamped with covid - managers should have sorted it by now.

By the way my OH, who had his cancer treatment stopped in mid March still hasn't got a date for it to be re-started!