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Gardener has wrecked the garden!

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Myfriendanxiety · 03/06/2020 09:23

Sorted a gardener to come and cut back some very overgrown bushes and plants on our garden.

I was at work but DH was here when he came yesterday, he clearly didn’t pay much attention to the work being done though!

Well the garden looks a mess. I expected it to not look amazing as obviously the leaves have been cut away to trim things back leaving all the branches exposed, but somethings that had flowers on are now gone and it just looks a state.

We have also lost the privacy from next door who can now see straight into my living room if they are sat in their garden.

Please reassure me it will grow back in time!

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eatyourcake · 03/06/2020 11:37

Tidy and plant a bunch of perennials in the patch (ask the gardener lady for easiest to look after varieties), or even seed loads of wildflowers, minimal upkeep and a colourful display year after year, that's what I did with my little front garden patch. Gravel looks sad :(

Bluntness100 · 03/06/2020 11:43

Op was it very over grown and straggly? Normally when you start to cut things back like that it looks shit after because all you see is the brown crap that’s left, it then starts to grow again.

I think because there is no before photos it’s hard to judge, because even the most expert gardener might have struggled to give you anything more than you have. As in basically if it was over grown enough it was always going to look shit cut back

Quarantimespringclean · 03/06/2020 11:49

I strongly agree that there are gardeners who know about plant care and there are odd job men who trim grass and hedges. In my mind I call our current ‘gardener’ the groundsman. He is great on general maintenance, fence repairs etc but absolutely clueless about plant care. When lockdown is over I will be looking for someone who can do both things.

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SirVixofVixHall · 03/06/2020 11:55

The Buddleia would not be in flower yet anyway, mine aren’t, but he will have cut off buds most probably.
It is possible to kill one with overly brutal pruning, my gardener managed it .
They do all look hacked at rather than pruned back, and it is the wrong time of year to be pruning most things anyway, unless you just need to make something smaller, and don’t care if it flowers or not this year.

Pavlova31 · 03/06/2020 11:57

Pruning right back.
You do realise this is nesting season Op ?

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 03/06/2020 11:58

Ha, sounds like my FiL (RIP) - we had to hide the garden shears when he was visiting. Gardening to him was cutting things down or pulling them up. He once raked our lawn so viciously we had to get it re-turfed the following spring - just as well it was small.

I’ve had a ‘gardener’ who wasn’t - but fine if told exactly what to do. I once asked him to identify a very attractive and unusual shrub overhanging from next door. He said, ‘Er, a rhododendron?’

I ask you!

Graciebobcat · 03/06/2020 12:05

It looks shit, and yes he probably didn't know what he was doing, but it will all probably grow back extremely vigorously.

I could forgive someone for not knowing a particular plant though, unless it was extremely common. There are a lot to know. I've done a course on which plant identification was a prominent part, and I know more than I used to but horticulture knowledge takes a lifetime to build u and then you still won't know everything. Our tutor was a Chelsea judge and he didn't know all plants.

Myfriendanxiety · 03/06/2020 12:06

Pavlova everything was checked for nests before hand and there was nothing there.

To maybe help put it into perspective- there were 8 bags like this filled!

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Melroses · 03/06/2020 12:07

Proper pruning takes quite a bit of time and effort when something has been left for a few years.

I would take the time to work out what each plant is and when is the best time to prune it and make yourself a calendar.

At least they are smaller and you can see all the branches so you will find it easier to work out what to take out when the time is right.

It might be worth working some pelleted chicken manure into the soil and giving it a good covering of bark chippings to look after the roots during the dry weather (I live in a very dry place and everything is mulched in the spring)

C0RA · 03/06/2020 12:07

They always look shit once they are cut back into the old wood. To be fair, you gave him a vague instruction at the wrong Time of year and didn’t stay around to supervise. The buddleja will be Fine and the fatsia can be saved.

Most ( but not all) buddleja should be cut to waist height in autumn and knee height in feb / March, if you want to keep them small.

Pruning is not a thing you can ignore for 5 years.

Melroses · 03/06/2020 12:08

www.grassfreelawns.co.uk/section694629.html

Also, have a look at grass free lawns for your patch

MulticolourMophead · 03/06/2020 12:14

My NDN has a gardener and she raves about him. Her little garden looks lovely, so if I need anything doing, I'll be asking for his number.

I'd otherwise be asking around for personal recommendations.

Sushiroller · 03/06/2020 12:42

😱😱😱😱

What has that man done to your bushes!!!!
I wouldn't let him back in my garden

corythatwas · 03/06/2020 12:57

The fact that he filled 8 bags means nothing.

Maybe he should have questioned your dh, said "sorry mate, but do you really want this job done at the wrong time of year when you could get a better job done by doing each plant at the right time?" But then again, he may not have understood that your dh hadn't done the research: he may simply have thought you had reasons for wanting it done now.

But as others have said, all is not lost. Though in the case of a neglected buddleia, tbh it might be worth starting all over again with a new plant to keep it small.

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 03/06/2020 13:30

@Melroses

www.grassfreelawns.co.uk/section694629.html

Also, have a look at grass free lawns for your patch

Ooh, nice link, thanks Melroses. I thought it was going to be Astroturf and was about to start raging! But they look fabulous. I think we nearly have one by accident. Smile
WoollyMammouth · 03/06/2020 13:36

As others have said it’s really not the right time of year to go chopping everything down. Wait til autumn, we do this every year and by next year it’s all back again. We also get the DC involved, they love cutting it all.

Melroses · 03/06/2020 16:37

Ooh, nice link, thanks Melroses. I thought it was going to be Astroturf and was about to start raging! But they look fabulous. I think we nearly have one by accident

They are lovely - I struggle to grow grass and fancy one, but knowing my luck, I would have to spend all my time pulling the grass out of it Hmm The bees would love it. Grin

Oblomov20 · 03/06/2020 16:50

Christ Almighty. He's just a hacker. He's a butcher. Even I know that these things can be trimmed gently.

Myfriendanxiety · 03/06/2020 20:10

Managed to get some pictures of the before as he had taken some!

It was very overgrown, but looking back at it now there was certainly some lower level plants that could have been carefully pruned and tidied rather than destroyed completely!

There was a lot of bramble knotted in to everything which is why he says everything had to be cut back so much to be able to access all the overgrown bits at the back. I told him I wasn’t happy with the butchering and that I had asked for trimming to a manageable level, not completely strimming to bare roots!

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Hedgesfullofbirds · 03/06/2020 20:12

Hmmm ...a van, a lawnmower, a hedgetrimmer and some waste bags do not a gardener make!

As has been said, there is a world of difference between a 'mow & blow' merchant, of whom there are many out there, and a skilled artisan or craft gardener. It is easy to be wise after the event, but this story is so familiar - there was a similar thread only a couple of weeks ago.

I would urge everyone contemplating engaging a 'gardener' to follow some simple rules:

Always, always try and establish their depth of knowledge regarding plant identification, species and season specific pruning knowledge. It is true to say that nobody can identify every single plant, tree or shrub, but a skilled horticulturalist should, at the very least, be able to identify which genus a plant belongs to and therefore what environment and soil type suits it best and how to care for it. An ability to identify a plant by its scientific binomial Latin name should be a good indicator that they at least have some knowledge!

Always, always ask to see a portfolio of their previous work - they should be more than willing to showcase their skills and previous achievements - it is, after all, their 'showroom' in a manner of speaking. And they should have a strong sense of pride and proprietorship in all the gardens thay care for.

Always, always try and gauge their enthusiasm for wildlife - this again is a good indicator of a gardener who cares, as opposed to one who will willingly just cut back anything they are instructed to! They should be guiding you as to what is or is not appropriate at a given time of year. And, yes, nobody, but nobody should be cutting hedges from March to August - it is unneccessary and incredibly destructive for wildlife, especially birds.

Do not attach too much credence to the production of horticultural qualifications - I am a professional gardener (albeit employed full time at one location, rather than being a self employed mobile gardener) and I have witnessed some dreadful ineptitude from those who hold RHS Level 1,2 or 3 or NVQ qualifications - a theoretical knowledge does not always translate into an ability to undertake tasks practically. And the RHS qualifications only require a 50% mark in order to register a pass...

Always, always ask to see proof of Public Liability insurance and try to assess their attitude to health & safety and PPE - I have lost count of the number of times I have seen chainsaws, hedgetrimmers or strimmers being used by those all dressed in t shirts and shorts - no ballistic, eye or hearing protection in sight! Chainsaws, one of the most dangerous tools ever invented and it beggars belief that anyone, with no experience, skills or training can simply buy one, take it home and cause themselves life changing injuries, or worse, all in the space of a few hours. As for strimmers - there is nothing quite like them for putting stones through car windows, double glazed windows or patio doors🤔

And, finally, always, always ensure that they have the appropriate Waste Cariers Licence if you are paying them to remove waste. And do not be afraid to ask where and how they are going to dispose of it. A 'green waste' licence means that they cannot (lawfully) transport waste timber, fence panels, old decking, rubble, scrap metal or general household waste. If waste is transported and/or disposed of in an inappropriate or unlawful way, you, as the instructing person, are vicariously liable. The penalties are severe...

To answer your question OP, yes, your shrubs will grow back in time - without seeing 'before' pictures, it is difficult to assess, but a skilled gardener should, by dint of judicious and careful pruning, have been able to remove growth from those shrubs, whilst maintaining some semblence of shape, form and aesthetic appeal. Not wise when things are drought stressed though, as they are currently with such a hot, dry spring!

Myfriendanxiety · 03/06/2020 20:37

@Hedgesfullofbirds thank you! I will certainly take all that advice next time. The lady coming to look at the weekend seems lovely and far more knowledgable. She is just going to do me an hours consulting on where to go next with it and then I’m happy to do the work myself.

I have posted some before pictures a few minutes ago.

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NoWordForFluffy · 03/06/2020 20:47

Buddleia need taking back to 12-18 inches every February. They'll grow back each year. Yours is way too woody.

Hedgesfullofbirds · 03/06/2020 20:53

@Myfriendanxiety - yes, I have now seen the 'before' pictures, I was busy writing my post ( complete with grammatical and spelling errors!) whilst you were uploading them!

I have to say that there is certainly a good deal of growth on them, but my comments still stand - careful, incremental pruning over a period of time would reduce them to a manageable level, whilst maintaining structure and aesthetics. Take heart though, many shrubs and plants thrive on heavy pruning and often flower more vigorously once they have made new growth.

Myfriendanxiety · 03/06/2020 21:00

@NoWordForFluffy thank you, we will chop it right back at the right time and hope it comes back! It is very woody and is definitely a tree rather than a bush now. I’m hoping cutting it right back will make it correct itself!

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NoWordForFluffy · 03/06/2020 21:10

It will come back just fine. Ours was like that when we moved in. I chopped it right back and it's great. A bush again!

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