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Mumsnet Mums Obsessed with Teachers

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Sazzle7510 · 03/06/2020 06:21

Why?

Why do you feel you can comment in workload, pay, conditions, holidays when they are simply nothing to do with you?

Someone's mentioned her neighbour who's a teacher. Spent a lot of time in her back garden.

Why shouldn't she?

The thing with remote teaching in a state school is that you can plan and mark after dark when your kids are homeschooled, played-out, happy and in bed. Bar the emails from confused remotely-educated students. Why is it your business when she's managing her job commitments?

How bizarre, judgemental, nasty some of these comments are.

And, by the way, in the state sector we haven't being teaching via Zoom or Microsoft Teams becsuse, in my area, 34% of children live in poverty. There aren't enough devices in every family for one child to have one for a whole lesson, let alone four a day.

Teachers love your children. They have delivered food parcels to FSM. They are planning for Sept to get everyone confident, up to speed, planning extra. They are cleaning classrooms, portaloos, door handles, lunch tables because some of your kids have gone back to school. And some comments in here are just rude and horrible.

Teachers can't help that the government said no work for Year 11 counts past March 30th, which was half someone's workload. And pastoral support frankly doesn't take as long as marking 30 essays on Romeo and Juliet. For starters.

And they're leaving the profession in droves. Well done, Women of Britain. Just like all the bitchy girls at school: you did it. You destroyed someone.

OP posts:
DomDoesWotHeWants · 03/06/2020 08:08

@Drivingdownthe101

What I said was in direct response to the post that I quoted. Not very fair to take it out of context, is it?

irisnotadaff · 03/06/2020 08:10

Yawn. Tbh I don’t think you’re helping yourself here by calling people bitchy. You don’t sound like a nice person let alone a happy teacher I’d want my children with. Time to take a break OP, try sitting in a garden.

NiceTwin · 03/06/2020 08:13

I think "teacher's love your children" is a bit of a bizarre statement.
Not every teacher loves every child. In fact there are many a teacher who dislike many a child.

"They are cleaning classrooms et al" is another weird statement. No, they won't be cleaning their classrooms, not all of them, they are too important for that, a cleaner will do it.

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Drivingdownthe101 · 03/06/2020 08:14

I didn’t ‘take it out of context’. I directly quoted something you said. If you like I will repost my post but quoting your entire post? As my point will still stand.

peoplepleaser1 · 03/06/2020 08:25

@NeverTwerkNaked yes exactly! I know that so much more is being done in other schools and that is incredibly frustrating.

It's also not as simple as contacting the school. That's not been easy in itself.

Also, I wish I could believe this 'teachers will make sure children catch up, it's their speciality' stuff. I'm sorry, but this sounds ridiculous. If this was true why do so so many children fall behind, why are holidays during term time an enormous problem. The same teachers why can't be bothered to set anything for my DC seem highly unlikely to pull out all the stops to help them catch up.

BogRollBOGOF · 03/06/2020 08:36

Why do I care about the topic of teachers?
Until 20th of March, they were pretty important to my DCs.
Until 20th March, I gave up a significant portion of my free time to support my DCs' school.
I am at present, a former teacher. I'm not saying never again, but under usual circumstances the workload and DCs' needs were incompatible.

I'm generally pretty pro-teachers. Some can be unreasonable. Some parents certainly so; on our last email from the head there was another reminder that the messagin app must not be used to send abusive comments.

Recent months have seen a massive disparity in teaching efforts and work. From the efforts I've received, our school has been inconsistent and light touch. I did mention to one teacher during our SEN review that we're mainly using bitesize, not that her resources were terrible and totally inaccessible. I could have been "one of those" parents that badgers that things aren't perfect for their darling, but I have the skills to differentiate for him which is better than trying remotely on poor resourcing, and she's a human with her own family.

So I have a bit of a whinge about it on MN where there are other people in similar positions. I'm absolutely not anti-teacher, but sometimes critical comments are appropriate.

I haven't dealt with an estate agent for a decade, and that was pretty simple and smooth so to have a regular vent about estate agents would be very inappropriate of me.

Aroundtheworldin80moves · 03/06/2020 08:49

Parents are worried about their children, and just lashing out at the easy target.

I'm not happy with my children's education currently. But I'm angry at the Government for not giving better guidance. I'm angry at the presumption that everything can be done online. I'm angry at how Yrs2-5 seem to have been forgotten. I'm angry at teaching unions for trying to make a return to school impossible.

Individual teachers doing their best in hard circumstances? Not really. And if some are having an easy time right now, well so are lots of other professions on furlough (I know teachers are on full pay).

I know pretty much every teacher is now full time teaching again at my DCs school. It won't benefit my children, but the year groups able to return will be having a good experience.

echt · 03/06/2020 09:33

I'm angry at teaching unions for trying to make a return to school impossible

They are trying to protect the working conditions of their members.

NeverTwerkNaked · 03/06/2020 09:52

@echt

I'm angry at teaching unions for trying to make a return to school impossible

They are trying to protect the working conditions of their members.

The unions would have helped their case a lot more if they hadn t been obstructive about the alternative of online teaching too. Although I note they are softening their views on that so I think they are belatedly realising what an own goal that was
DomDoesWotHeWants · 03/06/2020 10:17

@Drivingdownthe101

I didn’t ‘take it out of context’. I directly quoted something you said. If you like I will repost my post but quoting your entire post? As my point will still stand.
And to do that you will also need the quote the post I was responding to. Which was the point I was making. You didn't. Thus out of context.
echt · 03/06/2020 10:19

The unions would have helped their case a lot more if they hadn t been obstructive about the alternative of online teaching too.

What on earth are you on about? The unions' job is to protect their members. End of.

Although I note they are softening their views on that so I think they are belatedly realising what an own goal that was

Evidence?

Drivingdownthe101 · 03/06/2020 10:22

Ok. Then I will quote both the post you were responding to and your post, followed by my post if you like?
My point still stands.

Drivingdownthe101 · 03/06/2020 10:23

It’ll be a pretty long post though, which is why people just tend to quote the relevant point.

NeverTwerkNaked · 03/06/2020 10:32

@echt

The unions would have helped their case a lot more if they hadn t been obstructive about the alternative of online teaching too.

What on earth are you on about? The unions' job is to protect their members. End of.

Although I note they are softening their views on that so I think they are belatedly realising what an own goal that was

Evidence?

In protecting their members they have to be astute in what they negotiate for and how though. Supporting online teaching could have alleviated some of the pressure to return physically.

Evidence: their own websites and statements

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