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If you left central London to move further out...

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ElkieMacjibe · 18/05/2020 09:30

Do you have any regrets? Where djd you move to?

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Cyberworrier · 18/05/2020 09:36

We left zone one for leafy south west London and absolutely love it. Wish we had done it a bit sooner. I used to love being able to walk everywhere, eg to museums etc living centrally but the parks and commons are so lovely here, it is so quiet and we have a (for us) big garden. Nice restaurants and cafes locally. Still easy to meet up with friends centrally and for work etc (before lockdown). We keep saying how glad we are we moved out as it would have been a nightmare in our old place with minuscule patio and trying to walk dear dog socially distancing in central.

ArabSprings · 18/05/2020 09:38

We moved from zone 1 to north London and absolutely love it here. We are next to a giant park, good schools and we have never looked back. The main reason was for raising a family and I don’t think we would ever even consider moving back into central.

Elouera · 18/05/2020 09:45

We were looking at houses by the sea prior to lockdown. We've lived in central London for years, and I'd love a garden, more outdoor space, quieter and DH wants to be closer to family. I'm amazed at how clean the air feels and how quiet it is outside the city.

My main concerns are lack of work opportunities for me, and the reason we've stayed in London so long. I wouldn't want to be commuting back in once we move though, as it defeats the purpose.

How far are you thinking OP? Would you need to commute?

GreeboIsMySpiritAnimal · 18/05/2020 09:49

We moved from Primrose Hill to St Albans. Tbh, if we could have afforded a house or even decent flat in PH we'd never have left, we loved it there - but actually now we love St A just as much, and when I do go into London I'm relieved not to have to deal with the crowds and the transport anymore.

It did take time for St A to feel like home though. Was a good 2-3 years before I stopped missing London.

Wingingitsince2018 · 18/05/2020 09:51

I used to live in zone 1, moved out to a commuter town 3 years ago and certainly have no regrets. I couldn't imagine having a family where we were before due to lack of green space and how busy everywhere was.

We looked at a few places that we discounted as they were a bit too close to London still and therefore didn't have enough of their own community and culture. Unfortunately moving to somewhere else within London but more leafy and family friendly wasn't within our budget (the only thing in budget on Rightmove was a houseboat or a garage!).

I can be in central London in 35 minutes on the train so I don't feel like I am too far from friends and going for day trips. I do still work in the city however so I think that gives me a nice link to hustle and bustle, I can actually just get away from it now!

georgialondon · 18/05/2020 10:09

I'm in zone 1 with small children and considering St Albans too. The only thing that puts me off is there is only one commuter line and it's often got issues.

I'd love to hear other people's recommendations too.

RainMustFall · 18/05/2020 10:41

I lived in Fulham for most of my adult life and then moved to Bucks about 17 years ago when I retired. I regret it but can't move back unless I win the lottery.

ElkieMacjibe · 18/05/2020 12:06

Lockdown obviously takes away all the benefits of being in London so it started me looking elsewhere. Not sure if it would be better to technically stay in London but outer zones or head Hertfordshire suburbs way where we have some family. The appeal of a big garden and more living space is strong right now! I love London though and the convenience of everything. Commuting doesn't appeal at all but if working from home more becomes more acceptable that might work.

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chipsarnie · 18/05/2020 12:23

Shoreditch to Leytonstone - albeit 20 years ago. We lived there for more than a decade, and saw it change massively. Decided to grow up and buy a house. E11 was the only place we could afford a 3 bed with garden within spitting distance of central London at the time.

Missed living on the edge of Central London a great deal at first. Leytonstone was a dreary backwater.

However - things have 'come on' a lot, especially in the last 5 or so years. We absolutely love Leytonstone. Great place to live and raise a family (as it turned out!).

ScreamingKid · 18/05/2020 12:31

We moved from N1 to SW19. I couldn't imagine living in central london now and havent looked back. I feel like we have the best of both worlds :close enough to central London and lots of local restaurants and cafes , but not far to drive out for walks or commons close by.

jonnybiscuits · 18/05/2020 12:34

Zone 1 South London to NZ. Best thing I ever did.

FizzyPink · 18/05/2020 12:34

I’ve recently moved from zone 1 to zone 3 south-east London. In fairness I was getting a bit tired of the London lifestyle and obviously I’ve mainly been in the house for the last 2 months but I actually really like it. If we’re able to wfh a couple of days a week when we eventually go back I’ll be even happier. I will say the only drawback I’ve found is the hour door to door journey on the overground after work whereas before I had a 30 minute walk

ChateauMyself · 18/05/2020 12:39

Ah, but Greebo, The Waffle House more than makes up for any regrets.

If anyone is considering St Albans, have a look at Berkhamsted (Euston line, or tube from Chesham). Also the villages surrounding.

NT Ashridge Estate, canal walks, independent shops...

ticktackted · 18/05/2020 13:34

Moved to north Hertfordshire after a decade in London - no regrets at all lifestyle wise - but I no longer commute! For the first 2 years I commuted and when Thameslink buggered up the timetable change completely I had to drive 60 miles each way to keep my job as I simply couldn't be late every day - and then park a 10-15min walk away because London parking is hard. So, that wasn't such a good time. I really enjoyed my first year commuting by train when the trains were fine, I think I only got seriously disrupted 3x in the whole year. Now I work a 10min drive/ 30min cycle away & am glad of it, though.

ElkieMacjibe · 18/05/2020 13:50

If anyone has any ideas for where the holy grail of affordable 4 bed houses with good schools and commute and nice high street is.. please let me know!

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eurochick · 18/05/2020 14:01

Describe "affordable"...

We made the move a few years back from zone 2 to the outer burbs. I hated it at first. I'm gradually warming to it now. There are advantages for family life out here but I really miss being further in. And I HATE the commute.

maxelly · 18/05/2020 14:09

I think it's totally worth it, staying in zones 1-2 was never going to be an option for us as we're not millionaires!, obviously there are drawbacks, commuting is not normally too bad so long as you are on the tube or a good train line but you have less flexibility, when you are in zone1 you can always jump on a bus or taxi or in a last resort walk to where you need to get too where obviously if you are dependent on one line and there's problems on the line or you miss your last train home you can be looking at a slow or expensive journey, you tend to need to be a bit more organised particularly if you are in a '2 trains an hour' type of place.

Also suburban outer London, even the posh/'naice' bits does feel very different to central, different shops and choice of restaurants etc. Round our way (zone 4-5 North London) it's pretty average high street stuff most of the way, perfectly adequate but if you want upmarket bistros and designer clothes shops you'd have to pay megabucks to live in Hampstead or Muswell Hill or similar. Most parts even the lower end do have access to nice some parks, and the advantage of being slightly further out of London is if you have a car you can get onto a motorway and out to some 'proper' countryside very easily if that's your 'thing'....

As to where, depends on your definition of affordable (and 'good' for schools lol)? There are parts of zone 4-5 London that are cheaper than parts of Herts but for maximum value for money you are probably better off looking south east of the river, even so for a family house, garden and catchment area for popular school I would have guessed easily £500k + ....

Or alternatively maybe go even further out, places like Bedford or Milton Keynes are on on mainline rail to London so quick connection, close ish to your family, and you will be able to get a really nice family home for much less than anywhere in London? Not that they are particularly lovely towns but I guess it depends on your priorities...

taraRoo · 18/05/2020 14:27

So interested in this ! We are in zone 2. I LOVE it but we simply can't afford to stay unless we continue living in our tiny flat with one kid and possibly another. But I don't want to leave! I have no idea where to go. Also under pressure to move back north. But it will be difficult to get jobs.

I just love my life here and I'm finding it really hard to decide what to do next as fundamentally I don't want it to change. I just want a bigger house in the same area! Alas i can't afford it. I also fear leaving London as it will be hard to move back.

Desiringonlychild · 18/05/2020 14:33

@georgialondon you could try East Finchley! As an international student, i used to live in bloomsbury, camden, southwark but moved out to the burbs when i got married. Lived in Hendon (which I didn't really like) but bought a 2 bed flat in East Finchley. Good schools ( i live less than 0.5 miles to outstanding primary schools and 1 outstanding secondary schools), leafy and still in Zone 3. Prices are high esp for houses, think a house is around 700-800K.

maxelly · 18/05/2020 14:34

taraRoo, are you able to identify what it is that you love about your current area as whilst you may not be able to replicate the exact same area, you might be able to find somewhere more affordable that still ticks some of your boxes with some compromises?

E.g. there are areas of outer London that are fairly grotty to look at but are in catchment for some great schools, or which have a fairly poor selection of shops but fantastic green spaces, or that have a great community feel, or lovely victorian/georgian architecture. If you can post a rough budget, where you need to commute to and your 'wishlist' perhaps people here might have some good ideas?

StarShapedWindow · 18/05/2020 14:35

We moved from zone 2 to Bishops Stortford in Hertfordshire. If I could have afforded a decent house I would have stayed in my local area but we got such a lot here (big garden, large house and excellent schools) for the same amount as a two bedroom flat where we were in London. I do still miss London but I can be in the West End in 35mins and my DC and DH love living in Bishops Stortford.

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WombatChocolate · 18/05/2020 14:49

Depends how far you are willing to move and what really matters for you in terms of transport links, schools, green spaces etc.

There are places on the tube in zone 4,5,6 which are very suburbs -- there might be parks, but you're in built-up areas without green space between the areas of housing. There are other areas a bit further out around the fringes of the M25 in all directions which can have shorter journeys into town, but not by tube. Some of these are also very suburbia feeling and built-up, whilst others are very market-town/villagey with lots of green and fields. Prices can vary hugely. You'll always pay a premium for being near a mainline into London in a decent time.

I know east-Surrey area. Some of it is within M25 and some outside. A number of places have main line stations that could get you to Victoria/Lomdon Bridge/Waterloo in less than 45 mins or even less than 30 even. There are places in walking distance of stations where you'd get a 4 bed detached for £500-££600k.

jackparlabane · 18/05/2020 15:04

We went from z1/2 borders to depths of z4. Affordable at the time as it's trains not Tubes, so few students and less transient population.
Streatham has allegedly been up and coming for years, but there's a lot going for it now, especially near the Common. Three stations and loads of buses, so with the help of Citimapper you can get around quickly, there's green space, good schools, and a friendly vibe.

SomethingNastyInTheBallPool · 18/05/2020 15:06

We moved from Maida Vale to Barnet four years ago, when DD was nearly two and our top-floor flat was starting to feel a bit constricting.

I don’t regret it at all - our lifestyle just wasn’t sustainable with a small child - but I do miss the convenience of certain things.

On the other hand, we have a four-bed house with a large (for London) garden, an easy commute down the Northern Line to work, the air smells much fresher and there are loads of fun outdoorsy things to do with DD.

Also, great schools.

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