'New money' towns?

[CleanIsBlissful]

Following on from a thread of working class towns, of which I am from and live in one too, happily and with no dislike towards that thread, I wondered if anyone could help me list towns they think are new money?

The subject of sociology has always fascinated me and I wondered if 'new money' is covered in that degree? For example, the difference between true 'old money' with tweed jackets and posh accents, to new money with flash cars and dolled up to the nines women, etc.

It's obviously a sweeping generalisation but there's never any smoke without fire in this case. I was wondering if new cash, to put it losely, is covered in sociology?

New money to me is places like...

Chigwell
Ingatestone
Certain parts of Brentwood
Some parts of Liverpool
Some locations in Yorkshire

Essex?

Old money strikers me as places such as Harpenden (St Albans being slightly work 'lively' and diverse), lots of Chelsea but not all of it, Chiswick, certain areas near Scotland, Bournemouth

TooGood Yeah when I think of new money, I do think of Essex. My mum is first genrration East end and always insisted lots of Essex like Chigwell and Brentwood were formed drug money and dodgy dealings that got them there. I suspected she read too much Martina Cole

She said the likes of Basildon was were the proper working class were now

I would have thought that new money would congregate in out of town developments around old WC and MC towns? As people make money they move out from the centre of wc towns to new suburbs or to villages. When people want to move into MC places they can't afford the centre (think Cambridge!) so live around the fringes.

Most of Essex. In Yorkshire places like Alwoodley in Leeds

Basildon is WC? I don't know it, but the name sounds v well-to-do!

Gun anyone who's ever been to Basildon will be having a giggle at it being 'well to do'

There are pockets of them all over. New build estates appeal to the 'new money' crowd. One popped up in a mostly WC village near me. It more than doubled the size of the village and is like a place in its own right with the new build organising itself and not mixing with the rest of the village
It makes me laugh. My work means I visit many houses. The houses are crap. Yes it has cobbles and old fashioned street lamps but the walls are paper thin and the gardens tiny

I would have thought footballers are creating these areas? Around Manchester etc? I don’t follow football but the premier ones are loaded aren’t they?

I think I need to edumacate myself, as I'm not altogether sure exactly where Basildon is. I grew up in a Northern wc town (mentioned on the WC town thread) and places like Aldershot, Brentwood, Basildon, Bury St Edmunds etc all sound like very naice, far away places. When I went to university, I thought Billericay was in Ireland but I'm sure I'm not the first.
Maybe it's the association with Basildon Bond as writing paper that makes me think Basildon must be well heeled?

Yeah, footballers in the Premier league are loaded but they're not usually the 'work ard, and we make sumfink' of ourselves' type. Lots of them are not even English and are here only to play English football

Alwoodley has been posh for decades.

I was once reading something about why certain areas of cities/suburbs become known to be naice/not naice and the explanation was that it goes back to the industrial revolution where factories were clustered in certain areas around waterways and the nice houses were upwind of any nasty smells, soot etc and the poor people who worked in the factories and mills lived downwind so had to suffer the pollution emitted.

Just for the uneducated, Essex is a county, not a town

Barbara- I have read similar, and it was given as the reason why in a region all the town's might have the nicer areas on one particular compass point due to the region's prevailing winds, or a ridge of hills, etc

I know where Basildon is now! It looks like rather a lot of other towns tbh

"Old money strikers me as places such as Harpenden (St Albans being slightly work 'lively' and diverse)"

That's funny, I live in St Albans and came on to suggest Harpenden as a new money place! The women all seem too groomed and polished to be old money - which I always associate with a slight air of scruffiness - bashed up Landrovers rather than gleaming 4x4s, wellies and dog walking clothes instead of expensive yoga gear and pristine trainers!

Alderley Edge?

Darras Hall, Northumberland

@CleanIsBlissful slightly off topic but if you’re interested in sociology and learning about the concept of ‘new money’ Mike Featherstones book consumer culture and post modernism is fascinating! I’ve never studied sociology but like you I find it incredibly interesting.

There is a cluster of ‘new money’ towns & villages in Cheshire, such as Wilmslow, Alderley Edge & Prestbury. Prime footballer / property developer / soap actor territory.

I know the East Midlands well, but I am struggling to think of similar towns in this part of the country. ‘Executive’ estates of tightly packed 4&5 bed detached houses which invariably have two shiny, white leased Audis on the drive can be found around the fringes of Derby, Nottingham & Leicester. These places have a ‘new money’ feel about them.

@margeisinlove you beat me to it with Darras Hall, came straight to my mind.

MrsTravers haha great minds and all that...

Knutsford. I uses to live in Cheshire and found the restaurants and bars in Knutsford to be very "fur coat and no knickers".

I certainly recognise the description of carefully-groomed women and leased cars. Most genuinely posh people I know drive old bangers and don't fuss too much about their appearance.

Barnes?

What a ghastly, cringy thread.

Tinkly Why is it?