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Anyone else notice extreme mood swings?

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Gimmeashake · 13/05/2020 21:28

Hi all, any reflections on this will be gratefully received! I'm 41 and have an eleven year old child. I've had periods since I was 11, very regular, always heavy. I've experienced depression in my twenties and had times where I've been ridiculously anxious. I've always understood these experiences as the product of a very unhappy childhood and my job (Clinical Psychologist working in mental health) has helped with this understanding. However, over the years it's become clear to me that I might be especially affected by my periods and I wonder if others have experienced similar? Last week I felt utterly murderous, tearful, I wanted a divorce, had thoughts like "I could just die, it wouldn't matter ". I was raging inside. My period started and at the same time I can honestly say - without any exaggeration- that it was like a switch was flicked. I can't believe how significant the shift is. All other things being equal, nothing else happening in life can explain it. I look back and I can see this pattern. I don't want to make excuses for myself but I'm really starting to think that hormones are a huge part of my mood swings. I can keep it together (no one at work would know for example) but it's miserable for me, about two weeks of every four. Can anyone relate to this?

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LeoTimmyandVi · 13/05/2020 22:41

I nodded along to everything you said. I know I am due on my period in the next day or two. In the last week to 10 days I have been so low, so angry and like life is truly not worth living. I find this very hard to live with but currently take 20mgs of Citalopram anyway for anxiety - maybe it would be worse if I didn't take this.

So no real advice, just lots of empathy!

LeoTimmyandVi · 13/05/2020 22:41

I am 43 sorry, so I am sure it is hormone related for me.

CloudyVanilla · 13/05/2020 22:45

This is PMDD and there is treatment for it, it's a recognised disorder and you don't have to deal with it alone, speak to you doctor Flowers

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Fred578 · 13/05/2020 22:46

Yes I have felt horrendous for the last few days. Very angry and very low. I am due on tomorrow and know I will feel better then. It’s hard to live with isn’t it

nevergoingoutagain · 13/05/2020 22:55

I agree PMDD. I have diagnosed PMDD. I take 20mg citalopram and Eloine which is a combined contraceptive pill recommended for PMDD. Both really help but I've really struggled in lockdown. During my pill break 2 weeks ago I was having suicidal thoughts.

It really is shit and noone really gets it! (Especially dh who still asks me what's wrong every bloody month! Hmm)

Gammeldragz · 13/05/2020 23:04

PMDD. I had it in my early 20s, it went away for a decade and seems to be returning. I get PMT symptoms around ovulation as well. Went totally when I had the coil in though, but unfortunately that caused other issues so it had to come out.

Gimmeashake · 14/05/2020 07:08

Thank you everyone - that's a revelation. I was worried that I was trying to find excuses but it's very 'real' and not something i can talk myself out of when it happens. It's making me wonder how many women are living like this. I'm going to speak to the doctor- I'd be happy to try anything. Just realised, I didn't have this when I was pregnant which feels like evidence to me! I'll read up on PMDD. How have you all coped with this? It's very powerful, life would be very different without it.

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Blueuggboots · 14/05/2020 07:15

I have this. I've tried fluoxetine but it made me ridiculously anxious and sertraline made me pile weight on.
Some months it's not too bad, but this month is dreadful

Blueuggboots · 14/05/2020 07:17

Pressed post too soon.
I get really paranoid, think everyone hates me, I feel overwhelmed by my job and lack motivation. I hate everyone.
A friend of my recommended starflower oil and has been taking it for years and says it makes a big difference to her.
It's on offer at Holland and Barrett do I've ordered some.

Gimmeashake · 14/05/2020 09:37

Thanks @Blueuggboots I'll look at that now. Yes I feel similarly. I'm on my period atm and feel more competent, fewer imposter syndrome feelings, calm. The other day i felt completely unmotivated, useless at work etc. I don't think its emotion a 'normal' range of fluctuating feelings, much more extreme. It's an exhausting rollercoaster and a significant portion of our lives - two weeks of every four!!

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Blueuggboots · 14/05/2020 12:54

The imposter syndrome is terrible!! We have an important team meeting every month at work and it always falls when I've got PMT!

Terralee · 14/05/2020 13:05

I'm 43 & had bad PMT for years with feelings of unreality, mood swings, & suicidal thoughts.
I have schizoaffective disorder anyway & take the anti depressant Venlafaxine & anti psychotic Aripiprazole for that.
But what helped most with the PMT is taking the mini pill Cerazette which has stopped my periods. I wish I had taken it years ago!!

BoogleMcGroogle · 14/05/2020 13:11

Hi gimmeashake from a fellow psychologist making sense of this experience. I'd never suffered mood swings until about 2 years ago. My premenstrual symptoms are now quite significant ( so are my ovulation mood symptoms in, um, a quite different way!). I have many of the thoughts and feelings you describe. I'm 42 and I think these are likely to get worse as a chug towards perimenopause. GP suggested minipill but it gave me endless bleeding. I'm reluctant to try AD's as I'm not depressed and plan to see a specialist gynaegologist when this is possible.

BoogleMcGroogle · 14/05/2020 13:13

There's a good evidence base for CBT for these issues, I think. Maybe worth accessing something online?

Topsy44 · 14/05/2020 13:18

Absolutely yes and unfortunately my PMT has got worse as my 40s have gone on. Now late 40s. I can recognise a definite pattern in my energy levels and mood throughout my cycle. The week before my period now is a nightmare, I wake up early, extremely irritable and tearful and my confidence levels are v low plus no motivation or energy to do much. As soon as my period starts I can only describe what I feel is a wave of relief. I can just feel myself calming down and irrational thoughts that I had in the previous week, I see in a lot clearer way.

There is definitely a link. I also went through IVF (lucky to be successful 8 years ago) so I know how much hormones can affect your mind and body.

I have decided that once the lockdown is over, I will be going to my GP to see what they can do. I think I've just been putting up with it for quite a while now, thinking well I'm obviously peri menopausal, just got to get on with it. Hormones have a lot to answer for!!!

LeoTimmyandVi · 14/05/2020 14:13

So glad to read some more of your experiences - I am right in the middle of a very down time with period due anytime. Given half a chance I would sell my house, jack my job in and disappear off. That may hard to back track on as soon as my period came though - so best not eh!

Gimmeashake · 14/05/2020 20:12

Thank you everyone this has been v validating. @BoogleMcGroogle I feel the same about ADs although I would take them if nothing else helps. I've ordered some starflower and will report back. I might try and do some CBT on myself starting with keeping a good log of my moods so I can be better prepared. It's like every month I forget that I had the exact same feelings the month before - it's hard to believe its pmt at the time. It's only afterwards that I 'click'.
I hope everyone else finds something that works for them. @LeoTimmyandVi I feel like that each month - existential crises every four weeks!!

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CloudyVanilla · 14/05/2020 22:31

Also you want to speak to your doc but if you do go on the pill to reduce your symptoms, you don't have to take pill breaks and this can help further instead of having a weak of hormone withdrawal. You need to take B vitamins when on the pill as well as they can deplete the body of vitamin B6 and B12 which can contribute to depression and anxiety.

nevergoingoutagain · 30/05/2020 22:07

Interestingly (or not I suppose!) there is a link with PMDD and PND. I suffered bad with my second pregnancy with ante natal and post natal depression (also coincided with a very stressful life period for me and husband- family court for step daughter) I've always had horrific PMT but post baby no 2 and post PND it's definitely got much much worse over time.

My 3rd pregnancy though I carried on with antidepressants through pregnancy and beyond. I also bf for the longest with her and it was literally the happiest time of my life....and then my periods returned 🙄

I'm 42 and dreading peri menopause... I have already seen a significant increase in PMDD symptoms. I wasn't actually diagnosed with PMDD until last year but I had already assumed I had it.

Exercise really helps me but I've had a prolonged injury which has affected my beloved running 😭

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