Chickens Against Dementors!

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Anyway have fun everyone, I'm off to sit in the park now that it's allowed.

TrustTheGeneGenie - I've just been reading that thread. Have posted supporting the good news (although something very innocuous, because I'm a coward). I can't understand the mindset at all.

I don't believe it is likely, or even, possible for anywhere to be "virus free", but honestly, the aim must be to get this infection down to manageable rates, and then decrease further mustn't it? So that it becomes like other notifiable diseases? Maybe that's simplistic.

Morning everyone.

I had a quick look at the 'Dc are going to have to repeat a year' thread. Bonkers. Fortunately there seem to be some sensible people on it already.

I do think that MN should maybe not allow such scaremongering thread titles though.

That London thread. Didn't take long before we go "we're not past the peak, there's just space in ICU for you now"

TrustTheGeneGenie I actually know one of the chief Mumsnet dementors in real life (she doesn’t know I know it’s her but she is very identifiable ) and she navigates real life badly. She has severe health anxiety I think, but doesn’t accept that she does. She thinks all her concerns are completely justified.

misery does like company doesn`t it!

@thatgingergirl agree. I think it's unlikely we will eradicate it but getting the numbers down is positive.

I don't think a lot of people actually understand it at all to be honest.

Oh blimey @Drivingdownthe101 that's actually quite sad! Does she recognise that she likely needs a bit of help?

I say that as someone who had anxiety for a long time before admitting I needed help.

@Drivingdownthe101

That explains so much. Its really very sad when you think about it.
Proves this IS about people's internal psychological motivations rather than scientific facts.

Not at all TrustTheGeneGenie, it has been suggested to her but she thinks she’s sensible and everyone else is wrong.
Having said she’s a chief dementor, she’s not one of the more vocal ones. But when she does post it’s very extreme’

That ‘schools won’t be back until at least next March’ thread is actually quite funny. They can’t see how hysterical they’re being.

I am cackling at the school threads. First they all said September was this magical month. Then, someone posted "right- everyone sending kids back in September then?" and suddenly it was all, "hmmm, not sure, i think i'll send mine back in Jan 2021 just to be safe" and "not a chance, september is dangerous, mine wont be going back until 2022"
This was after EVERYONE was lauding september as safe. Clearly, they have to move the goalposts again now as September is only 3 months away!

Someone posted something very wise a while back, paraphrasing it was about choosing to live in fear because if you’re always afraid you’re never suffering disappointment, but put better than that. I’m not sure the very worst “we’re all going to be in lockdown forever then die” types are enjoying themselves. They’re terrified to have hope, they are so afraid of having any positive thoughts or emotions ripped away from them that they can’t allow themselves, and by extension others, to have them.

That was me. It was this quote:

""The unfortunate truth is, many of us are addicted to fear. We've become so accustomed to the fearful projections of the world that we dont trust that things can be good. Unconsciously, we think that if we focus on the good we will lose control, be unsafe, be susceptible to disappointment...
People rely on fear as a protection against feeling disappointment or hurt. Fear can feel like a natural way to protect yourself and stay in control. We've all come to be far more comfortable in a state of fear"

So true.

orange I am quite disappointed at the football / Fitbit typo, I was impressed at you going for a walk and having a kick about at the same time.

That HT in Kent has acted totally unprofessionally, why on earth he thought half the contents of that letter were appropriate goodness only knows. It is a true example of why someone should not press send after typing in fury.

Re: Health visitors - known children at risk will still be being seen, and a lot of them encouraged into childcare/school. It's the new cases that won't be being picked up on, plus any other niggles (health or social, babes or wider family) that can't be nipped in the bud as routine visits will be cancelled.

It's so sad isn't it that it's easier to have no hope so it can't be taken away from you.

What have you got if you haven't got hope?

I'm generally quite a negative person I always have been but actually Corona has brought the glass half full out in me!

Yep and to a certain extent I get it- its like when you have something to worry about, you feel like if you stop worrying about it, it means it will get worse or you arent being "vigilant". However, the bald fact is- worrying achieves absolutely nothing. If worrying fixed things, we'd likely all have no problems now. Worrying chips away at you and erodes your psychological and physical health bit by bit. It lowers your immune system, it prevents you from seeing things rationally and it stops you from taking affirmative action when you need to.

Of course some worry is normal and part of our fight or flight lizard brain, but MOST of our worries are excessive and i read a study once that said that 80% of what we actually worry about never ever happens!

I'm in the SW and I was told about a month ago that ours was estimated to be coming mid-May, and this was from the local strategic partnership board

My brother is in the NHS there too and said the same thing, but looking at the numbers now....

I don't cover that area but another one where there have been few cases and we were having the same conversations then and ow saying oh no, it's not going to happen.

TrustTheGeneGenie - thanks for that - I am far too afraid to give my opinions on things in case I've got it all wrong.

The voting split on that thread is so disappointing.

Good morning. Head emailed yesterday saying school won’t be able to get the ks1 kids back for their month before the end of the year, no more space for the extended number of key workers and vulnerable kids the guidelines say they should be taking so she is going to have a fight on her hands if needs be as she is behaving appallingly.

From my mum apparently dd2 still didn’t sleep last night - awake well past 10pm then awake at 6 - poor kid is spiralling still. Shall see what the time away does for her.

That HT in Kent has acted totally unprofessionally, why on earth he thought half the contents of that letter were appropriate goodness only knows. It is a true example of why someone should not press send after typing in fury

Exactly this. Our headmistress is sometimes quite ‘reactive’ and responds to things when she’s better off keeping quiet in my view. However she sent a lovely, measured email yesterday about school openings. She said that contrary to press reports she is extremely keen to get more children back into school and that she will do everything in her power to do so safely. That she has some concerns around the guidance from the government but rather than give up they are working through it all with a fine tooth comb to come up with a solution.

It's blimmin hilly there though, good for the glutes though Yes it is, my DC's school is at the top of one of them so that means usually I am up and down there every day, for the last 10 years! So I'm missing that exercise (although not the monotony)

They'd love the DC repeating a year- would give them a head start same as having an older born child (vs summer born) in the year!

I see they have started on Boris declaring war on fat as well. Have not looked yet but bet that is a fat shaming dementor fest, weight threads usually are on MN 'Oh I ate a carrot and a bit of celery what have you eaten today' type thing

(imagines the MNetters hothousing their DC at home for a year, have already seen some doing yr 7 work with their yr 6s to be ahead when they go to secondary)

They’re scaremongering en masse as teachers on any school threads right now. There’s one about my kid crying that the vultures are circling on.

I told dd2 if she got to go back it would be very different and they wouldn’t be able to hug or play tag- she just commented that they would play hide and seek instead to keep apart and at least she could talk to some of her friends. This is a kid at breaking point being off school, who according to some mn twats needs to learn some resilience who came out with that but according to the teachers of doom - no cushions in the reading corner is the end of the world

DominaShantotto I explained to mine (6 and 4) exactly what school would look like if/when they go back and asked if they wanted to go... they said yes.