Chickens Against Dementors!

[psychomath]

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Anyway have fun everyone, I'm off to sit in the park now that it's allowed.

I don’t get why people are complaining about this thread. There is a whole folder about how awful and hopeless everything is, spilling over into other folders. And yet we can’t have one single thread??

I don’t get why people are complaining about this thread. There is a whole folder about how awful and hopeless everything is, spilling over into other folders. And yet we can’t have one single thread

lol right? but to be fair it was mainly only one person complaining about this thread and from what I saw, pretty much 90% of people responding disagreed with them. Also, I hadn't realised what that persons posting history was like but it seems they had form for posting doom mongering, ridiculous and OTT predictions so its obvious there's something psychological going on there.

I read this recently and it reminded me so much of the dementors:

"The unfortunate truth is, many of us are addicted to fear. We've become so accustomed to the fearful projections of the world that we dont trust that things can be good. Unconsciously, we think that if we focus on the good we will lose control, be unsafe, be susceptible to disappointment...
People rely on fear as a protection against feeling disappointment or hurt. Fear can feel like a natural way to protect yourself and stay in control. We've all come to be far more comfortable in a state of fear"

Its the dementors. Thats why they get so so angry if you try to reduce their fear.

I was going to go to the beach on Saturday but the "UK against Lockdown" (a.k.a Britain First off-shoot) have organised one of their picnics there. I think it will probably be a damp squib, but I don't want to be anyone near it in case it attracts trouble makers.

Our favourite chippy has reopened. You have to turn up and queue. They've never done deliveries, anyhow. Dh is organising dinner, tomorrow!

Oh that's annoying Great wave, maybe there is another cove or beach nearby? Why when people are now allowed to go to the beach do they need to do that...

yes maybe no-one will take any notice of them hopefully.

God I want a dirty, dirty burger now. Or fish and chips. Or both?

Bastards. I'm meant to be on slimming world. im not doing very well

Just seen another depressing school reply linking to a non existent school link about the horrors the small DC are going to have to endure.

Including a see through pencil case taken in at the end of the day. (mine had that already from school!)

I think that is right Alexis. (fear) Also, free floating fears covering other stuff in life perhaps...

SO many threads about schools asking what other people are going to do. Why?- if you are so convinced its unsafe then dont send yours- why are people so obsessed with what the people are doing?!!

I reckon it all goes back to the FOMO which is the dementors kryptonite! If they see everyone else going back they start to get twitchy that maybe their kid is missing out- hence this obsessive questioning about what others are going too do

orange I think we will just go on Sunday instead, we weren't particularly planning on going to that part of the beach but I think it wise to just avoid all the area. There is one at the local park as well, people talking about keeping the gates shut - but anyone who knows the park also knows all the alternative ways in.

I was a bit eye-rolly about them before, but now it seems that the origins are from an ex BF member, I am doubly so. I'm guessing all this sovereignty and "British laws for British people" is fine until it is one they don't like.

Would it be in poor taste to make tiny woolly viruses to secrete in school bags/pencil cases etc?

"For anyone who doesn't want to click the link links to a school website not saying this it reminds parents that school will not be the same school the children are used to or expecting.

That operating the school in this way goes against their entire ethos and that they are worried about the emotional and mental impact it will have on the children and it gives details of the practicalities which are:

• Children will be with one teacher in one group and not necessarily with the same groups of children they were with in March. They may not be with the teacher or classroom they had in March.

• Children could cope with this

• They will have to remain in that classroom for the duration of the day. They cannot mix with the groups of children in the other classrooms.

*Children could cope with this

-They will have set times for the toilet which will need cleaned by the teacher after they have been used. Only one child allowed to the toilet at a time.

*Children could cope with this

• They will sit at desks 2m apart. This includes the children in Reception.

*Not the case- early years in particular not expected to social distance

• Their classrooms will have all unnecessary furniture and equipment removed and all soft furnishings removed.

*Children could cope with this

• The classroom will be cleaned 3 times per day. The bins emptied throughout the day, desks cleaned and sprayed throughout. The classroom will be deep cleaned at the end of every day too.

*Fair enough

• They will work at their desks. They will not sit on the carpet.
• They will not be able to bring anything from home. No reading books, no packed lunch boxes, no pencil cases.

*Children could cope with this

• They will be provided with a see-through pencil case and equipment that will only be used and touched by them. These will be cleaned at the end of the day by the teacher.

*We do this already- well not the cleaning but the see through pencil case. Mine liked it!

• When any other equipment is used it will then need cleaned before other children use or touch it.

*Yes that's OK, they can keep it in the pencil case!

• When outside playing equipment like the climbing frame and bikes will not be able to be used as it is recommended these are cleaned afterwards but we would not have that facility or staff to do that at that stage.

*In Denmark the children wash hands after

• They will have some lessons that involve a lot of independent learning as the teacher will not be able to go side by side or sit next to them to give them targeted support needed. The teacher needs to keep social distance when teaching (the amount of distance keeps varying – to the public it is 2m but it has not been confirmed yet if this is the case for schools so we are operating on the same as the general public)

• Not sure about this - not advice given my our MAT /gov guidance

• Only one parent is allowed to drop of their child.

• This parent is NOT allowed to enter the school building or have the daily contact or conversation they need or are used to having.

*Fair enough, this happens anyway at our school due to parents faffing with start of day

• They will eat lunches in their classroom or we will have to finish early and send them home with their lunch.

*Children could cope with this

• If they fall over or have a toileting accident if we cannot source PPE or masks (personally I do not want teachers having to wear masks in order not to scare children) they will be encouraged to change themselves and clean their scrape or cut. IF this is not possible the parent will be called to collect them so they can do that at home.

*Could learn independence

• It is advised corridor are split and marked off to save children having to walk past people without a social distance.

• Year 6 will not be able to have a leavers assembly, a reward trip or the usual end of year events.

• There will be no sports day

• No assemblies

This is not my DCs school, this is something shared on FB from a school elsewhere in our county but I know from what DCs schools have said that they will be operating on a similar basis. My DC are not returning to school for the foreseeable future.

It's all so dramatic! (sorry I added the stars myself when reading it. I'm an ex primary teacher also)

That's not my post btw cut and paste a depressing comment on whether to send Dc back to school 'advice'

this is something shared on FB from a school elsewhere in our county but I know from what DCs schools have said that they will be operating on a similar basis.

Right. Yes lets base our decisions on Facebook, and link to school websites. Makes sense.

Actually on the sitting on the floor, I have seen this does with the younger ones with a marker just like how they have floor tiles. So that might not be the case either.

Would it be in poor taste to make tiny woolly viruses to secrete in school bags/pencil cases etc?

Yes @Mascotte it would.
But it would be funny too

I'm definitely going to hell.

Children and young people inc young adults are being thrown under a bus time and again. First it was brexit to appease the elderly. Then this. The elderly who survive this (ie the vast majority of them) will be well cushioned financially while the young will be uneducated, unemployed and bear the brunt of paying for this mess over a decade or more. It makes me furious.

the vast majority of elderly people are not thinking like this, my Dad is 96 vulnerable but not shielding as actually quite healthy for his age he is not going out except for a walk my DM is younger and does the shopping etc, he does not want lockdown thinks it is bad for the country, we never locked down over the 50,000 excess deaths from pneumonia in 2018 "beast from the east" snow winter, he doesn't want his grandchildrens education delayed and he also wants to see them as he says no one should live in a cage

he is a commited Christian and says God did not make us to live alone people who are isolated long term need special grace to get through it like Terry Waite or going back further John Bunyan and many many others it is not natural for people to be isolated physically or spiritually whether you believe in God or not it is not good for the soul ( mental state) to be alone. Even for the worst prisoners solitary confinement is seen as being something so bad that it's duration is limited in days not weeks and months

there is a fantastic article in Daily telegraph it is behind paywall but most people can read several articles a month free

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/05/13/analysis-danger-coronavirus-compares-risks-everyday-life/?WT.mc_id=e_DM1246443&WT.tsrc=email&etype=Edi_Edi_New_Sub&utmsource=email&utm_medium=Edi_Edi_New_Sub20200514&utm_campaign=DM1246443

not sure why it is not highlighting

My husband and I were talking last night about which lockdown rules are most likely to be broken and I realised I haven't broken a single rule. Not one! Even though I don't agree with much of this, being a goody two shoes is hard wired into me it seems.

It is quite funny that people are going on a protest picnic when they can have picnics. Think they will look daft

and YY to mini viruses. DC could make some with those cardboard ring things

The constant school threads are pissing me off, asking the same question over and over. I have noted that all of them are from people who follow it with ‘I’m not’, if they are so happy and confident with their choice why are they asking a bunch of randoms on the internet?. The FOMO thing is definitely a part of it but I think they are also conscious that school will almost certainly not expect teachers to facilitate learning for those at home (which I completely agree with).

I have not seen one post from someone saying ‘I’m sending my DC to school and your an idiot if you don’t’, I think it’s quite telling.

That Telegraph article is great. It's so refreshing to see people actually comparing the risk of things and showing e.g. that for a young, healthy person - you're more likely to die cycling to work than you are to catch coronavirus on public transport and die of it.

Hello you people. Been reading these threads for a while but too chicken to post 😬

I have snoozed so many people on Facebook now that’s there’s barely anyone left apart from a couple of running groups where the only posts are Strava screenshots But I had to do someone else today. This woman posted a long spiel about how we shouldn’t go to the park (you know the sort, one of those pretend ‘conversation‘ ones that are utterly toe-curling) which was bad enough. But what really got me is that the day before lockdown (when we’d already been informally told that we should be social distancing), she posted some bolshy crap about how nothing would stop her taking her DS for his swimming session followed by a meal out with his gran, or something like that The change of direction made my head spin a bit... although she was always going to be a strong dementor candidate, tbh.

And if I see one more shared ‘I’m an HCP and I feel stabbed in the back’ post I will not be held responsible for my actions!

I have not seen one post from someone saying ‘I’m sending my DC to school and your an idiot if you don’t’, I think it’s quite telling

Yes. On our WhatsApp group those saying they were sending theirs back just said a simple ‘yes I’m happy for mine to go back’. The ones saying no were launching into tirades about putting our children at risk/letting them be guinea pigs etc.

I twisted the exercise rule in that I counted my exercise and the DC's exercise seperately, and that's been it.

I am getting tempted to see DM now. It's been 3 months! I'd aim to sit in her garden. Otherwise we'd have to drive to the park and I'm not sure if she's driven since January as she was revovering from illness prior to lockdown. The last time I saw her she was in hospital. She didn't need exposure to what I hoped was my cold in early March, so that visit was cancelled.

I can see why home visits are discouraged, but I think it makes more sense for DM to stay in her home and garden than to be transported to a public place! She's been seeing DB who's been bringing her supplies. I don't want her being lonely, and actually she's taken all this quite well.