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If you are a manager, what would you do with this employee

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CrawleyJ · 10/05/2020 21:11

You hire someone full time (37.5hrs) to do a job which has always taken previous employees 37.5hrs to do.

New employee changes processes/way of working and the job gets done in a quarter of the time and to a higher standard (we can measure the metrics). Employee then requests other work to do as now under employed.

However, other employees are not happy to hand over their responsibilities as its part of their job role. When employee went on annual leave colleague covered their job role. Even accounting for new process put in place they couldn't do it in the same amount of time as new employee can.

We now have the problem of a) this job only takes a portion of the time so job role is changed to reflect that, employee leaves as needs full time hours and job cannot be done by someone else in that time. b) find other work/projects for employee to do, however other staff reluctant to hand over their responsibilities to someone else. c) Tell employee they are under employed and maybe would want to seek work elsewhere (we have no promotions coming up)

Employee was given a project to do, delivered 3 days before deadline to a v high standard.

I am at a loss as to what to do with this person (disclaimer I am not the line manager, but a line manager across and up from her iyswim!)

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TSSDNCOP · 10/05/2020 22:30

Ideally B, but frankly I'd want to throw the car amongst the pigeons eg let super-employee simply leave as soon as their work is done for no cut in pay. But that will likely cause longer term issues.

It is time for a Management review of the entire function. Someone is going to lose their job.

tectonicplates · 10/05/2020 22:32

How long has this manager been there? Are they also someone who doesn't want any changes? It does sound like they need to be firmer and say this is what we're doing now.

RhymesWithOrange · 10/05/2020 22:33

I've been the manager in this situation. The old guard relentlessly bullied the new person who was threatening their comfortable status quo.

You need to shake everything up. COVID is a perfect opportunity.

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Swingingontheswing · 10/05/2020 22:35

Can you imagine! Exactly. The old timers I worked with would spend their whole day nitpicking problems with the ‘new’ system and were delighted to inform everyone when they found an issue. I remember when they replaced the computer system but had to leave the older system in place for historic information. Ten years later, the old timers were still referring to the ‘new system’ and steadfastly refusing to use it. They were very reluctant to share information too. I was there for years and got on quite well with them, but they did not see people on their level as equals. To them, longevity equalled superiority. It is a hard mindset to challenge.

HollyBollyBooBoo · 10/05/2020 22:38

I'd get them to do a root & branch review of every process in the company! Sounds like there's some improvements that could be made!

serenada · 10/05/2020 22:38

I have also experienced this position. I would suggest holding on to this person as they could go to a competitor (and now know your weakspots) or they will get disillusioned with the company not dealing adequately with the inevitable bullying that will start from the old guard.

I would suggest some training in IT systems or something that is up an ddcoming and can be used in business - data science, etc.

It's involved enough to keep them occupied. there is actually government funding for employees to train them on a day release basis. tha way they might have 3 days working, on day release, one day project relating to their study kind of thing.

Don't let someone decent go - it could destroy their morale.

serenada · 10/05/2020 22:40

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Frouby · 10/05/2020 22:41

It's a management issue not an employee issue.

I'd give efficient employer a 'floating' role where they learn every job and are used as holiday cover/sick cover etc. Existing employees would be told to facilitate this. It's not 'their' work, it's companies work and the company has a duty to customers and possibly share holders to work as efficiently and cost effectively as possible.

Then I would reassess everyones roles and introduce new working methods if necessary. Employees don't get to chose how they do the job they are paid to do.

Swingingontheswing · 10/05/2020 22:51

You could also create a ‘training role’. This wouldn’t be seen as a positive role for old staff generally who are probably fed up with training staff over the years but it would enable the new recruit to shadow and learn all aspects of all roles. After that it is far easier to promote them or put them in a more senior role.

In the term there is a huge benefit to you if improvements can be implemented. However, to do your best by the new employee, you need to have a clear career progression plan in place that she can work towards and benefit from herself. That is how you will get her to stay in the company.

NewNameGuy · 10/05/2020 23:03

Give them your job!

LochJessMonster · 10/05/2020 23:06

Surely just keep them on the same hours, same pay, same job.

If they get the tasks done quickly then that’s great but they won’t have anything else to do unless something crops up or another member of staff has a spare project.

Jaxhog · 10/05/2020 23:07

Move them around so they do a new job every 6 months. Soon you'll be able to replace the entire workforce with just them

This. Or B. Or give them some of your responsibilities or ask them how you could improve your job by shadowing you. Unless you do something, she will leave for a better job. This might be the best thing for her, so make the best of her time and skills while you have her.

returnofthemollymawks · 10/05/2020 23:08

Anybody working at the company would recognise the situation and the individual.

Swingingontheswing · 10/05/2020 23:08

Surely just keep them on the same hours, same pay, same job

If they get the tasks done quickly then that’s great but they won’t have anything else to do unless something crops up or another member of staff has a spare project.

They won’t stick around just twiddling their thumbs. I have left jobs out of sheer boredom. Watching a clock all day is soul destroying.

ICouldHaveBeenAContender · 10/05/2020 23:12

Please ensure they have documented everything. Otherwise all benefit will be lost.

mrsbyers · 10/05/2020 23:17

Get them to assess processes in other teams

JingsMahBucket · 10/05/2020 23:20

I’d give them extra educational/certification opportunities and create a specific track for them to get mentorship and indecent projects in the company.

TooExtraImmatureCheddar · 10/05/2020 23:24

Get them to develop process guides and training materials for every process and keep them up to date.

Ilovesausages · 10/05/2020 23:26

I would fire you for breach of confidentiality and professionalism and employ them in your place.

noriim · 10/05/2020 23:32

I would give them a special project role, like a consultancy to see what Luther areas of the business they can improve.
They won't be popular but it doesn't sound like your company could keep hold of them for very long anyway - they could do a few months/a year/as long as you can keep them.
If it is a woman, please don't destroy this energy and leadership, please help nurture and encourage her talent and confidence before encouraging her to move on to bigger and better things.

Methtones · 10/05/2020 23:32

Get them to assess processes in other teams

Yes, that's bound to go down a treat.

noriim · 10/05/2020 23:32

Other not Luther (I'm keeping him)

RoomR0613 · 10/05/2020 23:34

I would fire you for breach of confidentiality and professionalism

On what grounds?

JingsMahBucket · 10/05/2020 23:40

@Ilovesausages
I would fire you for breach of confidentiality and professionalism and employ them in your place.

Whoaaaa there, Billy Big Balls. Try thinking thoroughly before you post next time. Nothing the OP said is traceable.

returnofthemollymawks · 10/05/2020 23:40

*I would fire you for breach of confidentiality and professionalism

On what grounds?*

Confidentiality and professionalism as stated! I think it's highly unlikely that there is any medium to large organisation without a social media/IT policy which wouldn't cover this. It would be far to easy for somebody at the company to recognise who it is that is posting this inadvisable message. I'd have fired any of my staff if they had done this as they would have demonstrated a complete lack of awareness of confidentiality.

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