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Any cattle farmers on here who know much about bulls?

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Prontoe · 09/05/2020 00:13

I'm worried about my Dad.

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Prontoe · 12/05/2020 05:14

A couple of years ago, I was 'home on the farm' for a couple of months and my brother was over too (lives in Canada). My brother had been telling my father all about how he was doing some Israeli fighting class (it has a name that I don't recall) and even he couldn't keep up with my father splitting sticks. My only involvement during that stint was to feed the dogs, cook Dad his dinner (lunch) and on one occasion drive the jeep while my father and dog walked behind the sheep and I drove the jeep at the side, to round up sheep. Can't remember why they needed to be rounded up as I didn't have much interest. He ALSO shears the sheep himself lol. So that will be next on the list. So if you still don't believe that I'm a farmers daughter, then that's your own look out as my grandmother would say! Grin

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Prontoe · 12/05/2020 05:16

Scrowy - 80 acres weren't silaged! Only about 10- 20 acres? At a guess. But in my memory, it was a lot of days that I had to bring dinners over to the 'men'. I would have been very young and now I'm very old lol.

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Prontoe · 12/05/2020 05:21

Scrowy - I know sweet fanny adams about farming and I'm the first to admit it, but to have my STATUS as a farmer's daughter called into question brought out the writer in me lol.

I always loved this poem by Seamus Heaney (RIP).

Digging
BY SEAMUS HEANEY
Between my finger and my thumb

The squat pen rests; snug as a gun.

Under my window, a clean rasping sound

When the spade sinks into gravelly ground:

My father, digging. I look down

Till his straining rump among the flowerbeds

Bends low, comes up twenty years away

Stooping in rhythm through potato drills

Where he was digging.

The coarse boot nestled on the lug, the shaft

Against the inside knee was levered firmly.
He rooted out tall tops, buried the bright edge deep
To scatter new potatoes that we picked,
Loving their cool hardness in our hands.

By God, the old man could handle a spade.

Just like his old man.

My grandfather cut more turf in a day
Than any other man on Toner’s bog.
Once I carried him milk in a bottle
Corked sloppily with paper. He straightened up
To drink it, then fell to right away
Nicking and slicing neatly, heaving sods
Over his shoulder, going down and down
For the good turf. Digging.

The cold smell of potato mould, the squelch and slap
Of soggy peat, the curt cuts of an edge
Through living roots awaken in my head.
But I’ve no spade to follow men like them.

Between my finger and my thumb
The squat pen rests.
I’ll dig with it.

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Prontoe · 12/05/2020 05:23

My brother (now a doctor) also loves that poem.

As I said, my mother had notions and we were not going to be farmers.

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Prontoe · 12/05/2020 05:26

But I’ve no spade to follow men like them.

Favourite quote from a poem ever.

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Prontoe · 12/05/2020 05:42

In fairness Scrowy - a couple of posters suggested the AI. I didn't know the gory details either, but I do now. As I said, my mother was over protective (I went wild when I got to uni), so we really were not involved in farming. Apart from standing in gaps, with a herd of cattle running at you.

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Splendidsunrise · 12/05/2020 05:43

I’m loving reading this thread .

Prontoe · 12/05/2020 05:50

I remember having to get up at 6am to bring cattle in aka standing in gaps and that would have been when the vet was coming in the morning to test them or something.
Further proof that I'm a farmer's daughter is that I had to get the BCG twice - once when some of the cattle had TB (I think I was 7) and the second time at about 11 or 12 at school and I didn't test as immune. So I've two lovely scars from the second dose I got, which got infected.
I am a farmers daughter. Just not a very good or useful one!

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LesleysChestnutBob · 12/05/2020 06:21

It's almost impossible to believe that a farmers daughter wouldn't be allowed on the farm.

Weanling calves don't need to be let in to their mothers twice a day to feed, they're weanlings.

from my experience, don't particularly appreciate your presence either!

I thought you know nothing about farming and have no experience.

And what farmer working 400 sheep of his own doesn't have a trained sheepdog or two? After so long farming he should be adept at training dogs to herd sheep because they are so incredibly useful and would save so much time that to not have one would be quite mad.

Prontoe · 12/05/2020 06:27

I adored my father and would have loved nothing more than to have been out on the farm with him. Instead, we were inside cleaning the house or dancing. Now the dancing involved a rod being used to get you to lift your legs higher. As I said, my mother was wicked. We also went to dancing competitions every Sunday which my father had to drive us to, and we'd come home late at night, in snow and all sorts, and my father would have to change into his work clothes and go out and feed the cattle. It's just the way it was! Hence him leaving my mother I suppose. I call her the Wicked Chicken. So does my dbro. You'd have to have been there I suppose to understand. I loved the farm and animals and loved being with my Dad, but we simply were not allowed out with my Dad. Simple as that. No idea how I can explain it any better.

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Prontoe · 12/05/2020 06:30

Lesley, if you read the thread, I've answered all of the questions you've raised.
This is like Ripleys Believe it or Not. FFS.
I was asking about a bull, this was never intended to be a thread about my credentials as a farmer's daughter. Why the actual fuck would I be asking about a fucking bull if I wasn't a farmer's daughter?

Some people are idiotic.

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LesleysChestnutBob · 12/05/2020 06:33

Nope you haven't answered any of my questions. Said your dad doesn't have sheepdogs. Some bizarre story about calves being let into a field with an electrified fence and then being let into their mother's twice a day to drink milk.

No I don't know why you started this thread either.

Prontoe · 12/05/2020 06:34

It's almost impossible to believe that a farmers daughter wouldn't be allowed on the farm.

Believe it.

Weanling calves don't need to be let in to their mothers twice a day to feed, they're weanlings

They're not weanlings when they're still young calves. They still go to their mothers twice a day. Don't ask me how old they would be, but they're separated from the cows and let out into a field and are brought up to the cows twice a day. FACT.

My father doesn't have time to train the dogs. I've actually explained that in a previous post - prior to your gobshitery.

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Prontoe · 12/05/2020 06:36

Lesley - what the fuck are you getting out of posting on this thread? If you don't believe me, scroll on by...….

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Vincent05 · 12/05/2020 06:42

Our beef bulls always ran with the cows they are calmer that way. Sounds like a dangerous bull from that behaviour. We would cull a bull behaving in a threatening manner. They can kill you very easily. Wouldn’t go in with a bull if working alone

Prontoe · 12/05/2020 06:43

I started this thread as I am worried about my Dad. He had told me about losing two sets of twin calves. The bull was mentioned. I didn't know the details. So I asked on here and thanks to posters knew enough of what to ask him. The bull is now out in a field with some cows. Thread closed. Why the fuck I appear to have annoyed some of you enough to question my post is fucking beyond me.

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Prontoe · 12/05/2020 06:46

Fucking hell, it's a thread about a fucking bull. It's hardly AIBU to think that someone looked crooked at me in Aldi?

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Prontoe · 12/05/2020 06:47

I got the answers I wanted from people who DO know what they're talking about and when speaking to my father again, the bull IS out in a field with cows.

Jesus Christ.

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Prontoe · 12/05/2020 06:50

Vincent, I agree he sounds like a dangerous bull, but all bulls are dangerous. I don't think my father has ever had a placid bull. Just doesn't seem to be in their nature.
God almighty. Having to explain myself over and over and STILL THEY COME.

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SecondRow · 12/05/2020 06:57

By left her do you mean he threw her out? As he's still on the same farm? I never heard an Irish woman describe her mother as wicked before.

Prontoe · 12/05/2020 07:12

I never heard an Irish woman describe her mother as wicked before.

You haven't met my mother. Grin

By left, yes, he left my mother to be with another woman - the current Mrs 25 years later. It's a complicated history that I'm not going to go into on a thread about a fucking bull, where most people think I've made the thread up in the first place lol. I presume you can accept that.

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Prontoe · 12/05/2020 07:15

For clarity - the house I grew up in was 100 yards from the farm house where my grandparents lived. When my parents separated, my mother got the house which she eventually sold about 15 years ago. My father and the new woman (of 25 years) live in a neighbouring town, but are now going to move into the farmhouse which will make life a lot easier for my father. He was driving out 10 miles to the farm in the middle of the night, but now will be living ON the farm. As I said, it's complicated.

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SpringSpringTime · 12/05/2020 07:33

The Israeli fighting class was probably Krav Maga

SecondRow · 12/05/2020 07:38

It is complicated, I see what you mean.

The "new" woman must have the patience of a saint, if he's nearly 70, retired from the day job with a pension and yet can never travel the world because he has TWO farms on the go. Or is she a home bird too?

Mlou32 · 12/05/2020 07:46

I'm not sure why people don't believe that the child of a farmer would know nothing about farming. My partner grew up on a farm with a father who was a farmer. As kids, they weren't really allowed on the farm. His father was a stubborn old goat and just didn't allow it - a farm was no place to play. Nor did he let them help as they grew up apart from jobs like standing in gaps etc.

Roll on 20 odd years and my partner inherited the family farm. His dad knew he was getting older so used to have my partner helping out at weekends, to prepare him I guess. When DPs dad died a few years ago, DP ended up working it full time. He learnt the hard way but is now a fully fledged farmer! I do see the difference in him and his brothers when one of the bros help out on the farm - they are clueless!

So being the child of a farmer and growing up on a farm doesn't necessarily mean that you'll know anything about farming!

I've also lived on the farm a couple of years now and I know nothing about it! I've helped with standing in gaps and one occasion where the cows escaped out a field but other than that, I know sweet fanny Adams!