The war on men

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There are few phrases that set me on edge like "the war on men", which is obviously a heap of toss made up by angry incels.

I've had the displeasure of meeting someone through friends who strongly believes there is a war on men "every day". Once lockdown is lifted I'm going to see this person in groups and he rarely shuts up.

Any concise responses outside of an eye roll and walking away? It feels like such an absurd notion that I don't know where to start. Rape culture, male violence, pay gaps, disparity in taking on caring responsibilities... you can't argue with stupid but I may end up trying.

Equality can feel like oppression. But it's not. What you're feeling is just the discomfort of losing a little bit of your privilege.
Or
Loss of privilege feels like oppression

Completely agree with @TorkTorkBam.

I don’t understand. Is he saying that feminism is a war on men? Asking for rights for women is a completely separate issue from men’s rights, it has nothing to do with men at all.

Here's an article that might help you decide how to interact with him.
www.huffpost.com/entry/when-youre-accustomed-to-privilege_b_9460662

Don't waste your time. Once people start spouting this shit they are too far gone.

I think it's worth acknowledging the way society lets our young men down, because it does. Young men are pretty vulnerable and statistics support that.

However, the problem isn't women. The threat to young men isn't caused by some privilege conferred only on women.

Men need to consider what damage the society they dominate is doing.

Any concise responses outside of an eye roll and walking away?

No because an eye roll and walking away is as much energy as you should ever expend on an MRA like this.

@ChandlerIsTheBestFriend you're right.

He likes to bang on about women getting custody of kids and courts hating men

Nothing you can say will ever get through to him. He has a fixed agenda in his head and doesn’t want to be told otherwise. Don’t waste your breath. Just try and find ways to spend as little time as possible listening to him.

If you can bear it, it is absolutely fascinating to ask why he thinks that is true. Don't try to argue against it at all. Don't try to ask questions to catch him out. Just try to find out what he actually believes and why.

I've done this. I was surprised to find I had more sympathy than expected with one guy who was pissed off on those family court topics. After a bit of probing it came out that he knows quite a lot of men are violent lazy twats and because of this the ordinary men like him don't get the benefit of the doubt in family courts and so they are disadvantaged in his eyes. He's got a point. There can't be a full deep investigation in most cases so it somewhat disadvantages men who are nice. I still think the courts are right to operate in that way given the terrible effects when the wrong man get the benefit of the doubt but I don't see the fella himself as an utter utter bellend any more.