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Upset son lives in a tip at his dads

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snappychat · 04/05/2020 11:36

My ex and I have two sons age 17 & 20. They’ve always split their time between us equally, but now 20yo lives with me and visits dad, though not much, 17yo with dad and stays with me regularly.

The issue is 17yo has had enough of (his words) “living in a tip at dads, I’m not able to invite friends round as I’m too embarrassed at the state of the house, everywhere is cluttered and messy, there’s plants all over the kitchen attracting flies, the bin’s overflowing, it’s just disgusting”

I went to pick up DS yesterday and omg I was shocked, I went in the kitchen and the state of it really upset me, the worktops were full of bits of old food, floor full of crumbs, front of cupboards all full of dust in the grooves, piles of stuff on worktops, inside fridge was filthy, rubbish bin full and bags next to it piled with rubbish too, I could go on, it was really gross. I won’t even start about when I’ve popped to the bathroom!

He met an overseas lady a few years ago and the boys talked to her quite a bit on skype and also visitied her country with ex and they said she was really nice and chatty, took a real interest in them etc. Fast forward a couple of years and they’re married and she’s living with them with her 19yo son, I’ve met them a couple of times and they both seem really nice. But, both my sons tell me she’s the complete opposite of who they met, she does not interact with them, she can walk past them in the house and not speak, (she’s done this in front of their dad), she cooks only for her and her son, leaves all the pots lying around the kitchen with left over food in for someone else to clean up, they say her son is as bad, doesn’t clean up after himself, all this and more and dad says nothing. Ex doesn’t cook for my son, he just grabs food as and when, they don’t sit down for meals.

This is really affecting my DS, to the point where he wants to leave his dads as soon as he can. I’ve told him he can be with me full time and he’d like that but scared of losing his friends, he’s at college and also sports clubs, his dad is 50 mins drive away.

I am so upset that my son is living like this, his diet isn’t great either as you can imagine.

He’s a lovely guy, we’ve always got on where the boys are concerned but my DS has had three serious conversations with him now and told him how he feels and isn’t getting anywhere, this is very delicate and I’m struggling to know how to deal with it.

I’d like some help on how to deal with this, I am soooo upset and teary that my son is living in a sh!t tip and don’t want him to go back ☹
Thank you

OP posts:
lyralalala · 06/05/2020 12:33

I mean, he’s 17 not 7 so he could do the cleaning himself. I lived alone at 17 and managed to keep the house tidy.

A 17 year old shouldn’t be responsible for cleaning up after the rest of the household

cakeandchampagne · 06/05/2020 12:38

Could he live with you, drop you off at work and use your car? Then you could find a way home from work?

MitziK · 06/05/2020 12:41

Two buses and a train is a normal day for most people and many younger children. It would only be for his last year, if renting a bedsit near there isn't something the college can help with or you're not able to do.

Was his Dad always a lazy minger? It's not his wife's job to clean up after everybody else, either.

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minisoksmakehardwork · 06/05/2020 12:45

@Maybelatte - I am sure you could, when it's only your mess that you are keeping on top of. But when there are another 3 adults in the house who are contributing to the mess and not clearing up after themselves, I can quite see why OP and her son feel the way they do.

snappychat · 06/05/2020 13:04

@cakeandchampagne when he's passed his test the plan is to sort a car immediately so he could drive himself then so no issue, he was due to take test on day of lockdown but been delayed now grrr :)

@MitziK no he wasn't always like this bad, always been a hoarder but I managed that when we lived together. not sure what's happened to him. I totally agree it's not his wife's job to clean up after everyone and I'm not saying that, what I'm saying is that it is for her and her son to contribute to the upkeep of the house along with everyone else, if they all did their bit, sharing responsibilities, it wouldn't be like this, but she doesn't feel the need to. I would also say that whilst living with me both my sons do their fair share, (I'm a single parent and I couldn't do it all on my own) and it comes natural to them as it's how they've been brought up.

@minisoksmakehardwork totally agree, thank you

He is staying with me now until college starts back and then we are both going to sit down with ex and have a chat, then, if things don't improve he will come back to me full time

OP posts:
MitziK · 06/05/2020 13:12

Sounds like the hoarding's become unmanageable. It does (or at least can) turn into not cleaning because it might disturb or damage the Precious Things. His wife probably wasn't equipped to give up everything, move in and then find she can't move for Stuff and have to navigate the emotional acrobatics required with somebody who potentially runs out to the bins and sorts through rubbish in case there's some shitty piece of crap that's Important. Could very well feel that she is totally trapped, can't afford to move out, might still love him, but can't handle stuff everywhere other than by blocking everything and everyone out.

I think this is an ex problem. He's making it out that's it's all his wife's fault. But with hoarders, it never, ever is.

Mammatino · 06/05/2020 13:23

I’m really glad he’s coming back home with you. It’s one thing living with a bit of mess but an accumulation of filth isn’t ok and bloody hard to start to deal with without professional help. I agree it’s an ex problem not yours. If DS is thinking of uni after college he might be persuaded to continue to live with you until then, especially if his driving test is passed and a little run around saved up for. Your ex does sound mentally unwell and maybe his wife is the same or it has just completely overwhelmed her too. Crappy situation but you are only responsible for your son. I hope everything works out for you all.

RatherBeRiding · 06/05/2020 13:30

Once college is back, it might be worth looking on SpareRoom.com to see if there is a weekday only room DS could rent. I somehow don't see the situation as his dad's improving at all if he wife and step-son don't give a toss, which they obviously don't, and your ex either. And a 50 minute commute twice a day is likely to be almost as expensive as a 4-day a week room rental anyway.

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