My sons primary school have measured their classrooms...

[DonLewis]

And if social distancing is how schools will be able to open, they can fit 9 children in per classroom.

Reception is 3 form entry and totally open plan.

It's a virtually brand new building, so not like the school I went to, a tiny voctorain thing with portacabins in the playground as dinner huts.

So, how does this work? Most classes have 32+kids in them.

The government will throw money at schools to get them open.

I wish I could believe that, but experience tells me otherwise. I’ll be very happy to be proved wrong though.

Biscuit0110

I would love to go back.

And agree with this

so along with the rest of Europe we will need to gradually and carefully reopen.

So debates and questions about how are doing this with social distancing, hand washing, sanitation of schools, cleanliness of classrooms and equipment, travel, tracking, superpsreader/not superspreader, inter house cross contamination etc. is paramount.

These need to be in place or at least full discussed by those in power and justified before sending people (Teachers, TAs, Janitorial and office staff etc. Apologies if I haven't mentioned you) back to school.

Not a case you don't want to go back, you don't care you, shouldn't be a teacher which is frankly bullshit.

It does not matter what we think in reality, the government will either deem it safe enough to open slowly, guided by the latest stats and SAGE advice or it will decide to keep schools closed,

Exactly, so why imply that it's teachers with the wrong attitude (in your opinion) who are responsible? We're not looking for hitches to the plan! I really am hoping to go back after half term, but I also recognise that there are real, practical issues that need addressing first, and I don't think it's defeatist to raise them.

cantory I live in a hotspot according to those god awful maps of virus and one of my neighbours died last week. I drive out to a school in a village. It is not a small school, we have massive issues for funding, poverty and the same issues as most of us face. My niece works in a London inner city school, and she is terrified NOT to go back. None of the children on SS register have turned up for the last six weeks, and in many cases no response when telephoned.
Believe it or not a great many of us have bigger concerns than CoVid for some students in some areas.

so along with the rest of Europe we will need to gradually and carefully reopen

🙄 they are largely only opening up to the level we have been the whole bloody time.

Biscuit, is it a private school you work in?

As I said Cant the government are going to change the guidelines so that the distances are much smaller, more in line with the rest of the world, so this will help.
I am sure hand washing etc will all be prioritised.
I will be taking dettol with me, and ensuring my own work spaces are clean, I guess many others will do the same. I have gloves if I need them, fabric masks too if we are advised to wear them.

I am nervous about returning, believe me, but we have to face it at some point. I happen to think it will be harder to return in five months! With all the same dangers present.

Believe it or not a great many of us have bigger concerns than CoVid for some students in some areas.
What do you mean, "believe it or not?" Do you seriously think the rest of us haven't got vulnerable pupils on our radar?

@Biscuit0110 😇

The rest of us are clearly just evil 🦹‍♀️ 😈 🧙‍♀️ whi dint care about kids at all.

🙄🙄🙄Or, you know, we care about their family's & school staff AS WELL 🤷🏻‍♀️

@Biscuit0110 Change social distancing in line with the rest of the world? So tell us what countries have lower social distancing than us and what they recommend?
And everywhere else is promoting mask wearing unlike us.

And only Denmark has kids back at school, they have had less than 500 deaths in total.

I am bored of this thread, and I am very thankful that I work with an inspirational, highly motivated team having read this thread, that will be glad to give this a go in June, whatever the problems we face.
I don't think I could work with you lot, really so deeply negative. No real connection with the children, no genuine interest in the impact on education.

I don't think anyone will ever convince you that June is the right thing for us, as for whatever reason you have decided 'it can't be done'

By next month we will find out it can be done, and will be done, and what a great moment it will be for the kids of this country. I miss the children, and I am looking forward to hearing all their stories of lockdown.

Luckily you won't be deciding otherwise we may never go back, and we haven't long to wait to know the final decision. Good luck, and maybe your time is better spent finding solutions rather than moaning on threads

Nice goady bollocks there biscuit 👍🏻

@Biscuit0110 My family have been recently officially in poverty. We were doing fine.
And if this was about kids on SS register then there could be a response tailored to meet their needs, It has nothing to do with that. It is about getting kids infected and seeing what happens.

Goady bollocks and a serious lack of comprehension skills, if that's all she's taken from the thread.

@Biscuit0110 So you can no longer answer the facts people are raising so you accuse us of not caring instead?

No one has decided "it can't be done." We we're discussing the ways in which things will have to be altered in order to make it work.

But biscuit you aren't actually a teacher, so I am struggling to see how you suddenly have expertise in classroom organisation , marquees, playtime, teaching and learning, and how you only work in one school. It's all very inconsistent.

Someone who ahs your job would also understand the anxieties that school brings to many children (anxieties are not purely home based things) and the genuine and understandable anxieties many children will have about returning. Not all of which are related to coronavirus.

news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-germany-is-reopening-its-schools-and-the-world-is-watching-11982351

www.nytimes.com/reuters/2020/04/29/world/europe/29reuters-health-coronavirus-poland-restrictions.html

www.thelocal.fr/20200414/lockdown-how-france-will-reopen-its-schools-after-may-11th

lenews.ch/2020/04/29/coronavirus-swiss-schools-and-other-establishments-set-to-reopen/

www.thelocal.no/20200427/norway-opens-first-schools-after-six-week-coronavirus-closure

www.businessinsider.com/sweden-says-leaving-businesses-open-might-be-working-2020-4?r=US&IR=T

greekcitytimes.com/2020/04/29/how-will-greece-gradually-reopen-after-the-pandemic/

www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/01/children-as-likely-to-spread-coronavirus-as-adults-says-scientist

Almost every country in Europe is reopening schools in the next few weeks. I rest my case.

Apologies to any TAs. schools staff : not actually teacher,TA or midday supervisor

In fact, I struggle how you would even know what a school you work in is planning or how they feel.

NY is NOT opening soon!Most of those other countries have lower death rates than us (by a long long way) and/or are two to three weeks ahead.

Did you deliberately miss Ireland,Italy and Spain?

And, anyway, none of this means the residents of those countries are universally in clover , celebrating the return to school.

Your last link is rather counterproductive to your cause....

And as someone has already pointed out, many of those countries closed schools completely and are now tiptoeing towards the position we've been in for weeks already, staffing schools for Key Worker and vulnerable children and providing teams of work for children to do at home if they're not on site, so that the disruption to their education is minimised as much as possible.
So, biscuit, your assertions earlier on, that children had had no schooling and GCSEs were ruined is not entirely accurate.

*reams, not teams

9 children a day and teach the same day 5 times over so they all get exactly the same education

So how is that going to be ANY use to anyone?

It's not. That's the point.

My DD's schools have already stated that they will not be going back this term.