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Heeeeelp! anyone good at maths...

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ElGuardiandenoche · 29/04/2020 13:26

and can help with this question?

James has organised a game to raise
money for charity at a local fair.
He rolls a fair 6 sided dice and flips a fair coin.
If the coin lands on heads, the number
on the dice is squared.
If the coin lands on tails, the number on
the dice is cubed.

Each person pays 50p to play.
If they score over 30 they win a £1.
The game is played 450 times.

How much money does James raise for
charity.

Answers on a postcard please. It's 40 years since I left school and I only did CSE Arithmatic and I really can't work out the process with this one.

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IDefinitelyHaveFriends · 29/04/2020 13:29

I’d just do a listing of all the possibilities - there’s only 12 of them. Then work out the expected number of payouts, and subtract 450*50p in income.

Teddypops · 29/04/2020 13:30

Just googled the text

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Teddypops · 29/04/2020 13:31

Can you see it?

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PurpleDaisies · 29/04/2020 13:32

I would get them to work out all the possible different scores using a table. Eg
1 and H scores
2 and H scores etc...

Then count how many of the 12 results score over 30 and divide by 12. This will give you the probability of winning.

If the game is played 450 times, the total paid in will be 50p x 450.

You can only estimate how many times people will win. It will be the probability of winning each time multiplied by 450. Each win costs £1 so to work out the profit, subtract this from the money paid in.

Hope that helps.

IDefinitelyHaveFriends · 29/04/2020 13:32

Guess who should be working

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MagisCapulus · 29/04/2020 13:34

Ok so chance of scoring over 30 is what?

Doubled, cubed
1 = 1,1
2= 4,8
3=6,9
4=8,16
5=10,25
6=12,36

So only one combination can win.
Chance of that combination is 1 in 12.

Games played 450 times = £225 minus times won.

1 in 12 per 450 is 8.3% of 450 = 37.35

You cant win a .35 time so it would be 37 wins.

So 225 - 37 = 188

So he raised £188

...... I think!

Waiting for someone smarter to come along!

MagisCapulus · 29/04/2020 13:36

Oops I did squared

NotInTheMorning · 29/04/2020 13:36

Yes, I’d just work out the possible scores. There are 12, 8 are under 30 and 4 are over 30. He makes £225 (450 lots of 50p) and has to pay out £150 (1/3 of the players of 450 games will make £1) so the profit is £75.

PurpleDaisies · 29/04/2020 13:37

@magis you haven’t squared and cubed your numbers correctly.

IDefinitelyHaveFriends · 29/04/2020 13:37

Your maths is spot on Magis, but in the time-honoured tradition of GCSE students you need to read the question more carefully Grin

tutorwho · 29/04/2020 13:37

It is very handy that CorbettMaths uploads the answers. Some websites don't.

MagisCapulus · 29/04/2020 13:38

@IDefinitelyHaveFriends yeah I am a dick!

ElGuardiandenoche · 29/04/2020 13:50

Thanks everyone for your help. We can now go forward.

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Prontoe · 29/04/2020 13:58

I'd work out the probability of scoring over 30. Don't make me do the maths on that.

His takings are 225 pounds.
So the probability of scoring over 30, expressed as a percentage of 450 and subtract that number from the 225.

Makes sense in my head lol.

ElGuardiandenoche · 29/04/2020 13:59

He’s read it and said ‘Ohhhhh! Yeah! I think I get it now.’

He’s just on his lunch break and then will get back to it and hopefully will come up with the right answer but at least I can now sit beside him and talk him through the process if needed.

You are all absolute stars ⭐️

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Prontoe · 29/04/2020 14:01

I think it's only 4 and above on the dice that would score over 30. And 4 squared wouldn't pay out, neither would 5 squared.
So only 4 cubed, 5 cubed and 6 squared and 6 cubed would pay out.
So then...
Oh wait, my fucking head hurts lol

Prontoe · 29/04/2020 14:06

Am I right in thinking they've 4 chances out of 12 possible combinations that will pay out, so 1/3 of 450 which is 150
His takings are 225 - 150 he pays out in winnings, so the answer is his profit would be £75?

P1ainJanine · 29/04/2020 15:00

1 2 3 4 5 6
H 1 4 9 16 25 36
T 1 8 27 64 125 216

so 2 in 12 combinations result in a payout, which is one in 6

450 goes = £225 income
450 / 6 = £75 paid out

profit = £150

Prontoe · 29/04/2020 15:06

You're not looking at options for squared and cubed PlainJane

Prontoe · 29/04/2020 15:08

Oh you are
36 64 125 216 pay out
So FOUR not two pay out

ElGuardiandenoche · 29/04/2020 15:24

Sorted! Thanks Everyone.

@tutorwho*@Teddypops the question set by the teacher was actually slightly different from the Corbett Maths one which confused me for a while until I realised. In the end I used @NotInTheMorning* explanation and got him to do the table from Corbett (on his own not copying) and then used leading questions to get him to think about it as per Not’s explanation.

Thank you once again you fabulous lot ⭐️ ⭐️

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CircleofWillis · 29/04/2020 15:29

Far more interesting than my current work task!

Heeeeelp! anyone good at maths...
Prontoe · 29/04/2020 16:08

@ElGuardiandenoche What answer did you come up with?

ElGuardiandenoche · 29/04/2020 21:00

His answer was £75 but he did it again after submitting and came back with £150 so he's a bit muddled. He's hoping to get some feedback from

his teacher.

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Panticus · 30/04/2020 11:18

That was fun. I get £75 too.