Why would dc of non working parents be in school?

[DaanSaaf]

Just that really. Wondered what the reasons could be.

Cant stand people getting nursery places when they dont work , absolutely no need and pure lazy parents wanting best of both worlds free time to themselves and kids getting looked after by somebody else
Meanwhile the rest of us give up most of our income on nursery
Shouldn't be allowed full stop unless you are working

Cant stand people getting nursery places when they dont work , absolutely no need and pure lazy parents wanting best of both worlds free time to themselves and kids getting looked after by somebody else
Meanwhile the rest of us give up most of our income on nursery
Shouldn't be allowed full stop unless you are working

Do you mean in general, or during the current situation?

@Smilebehappy123
if they can take advantage of an open nursery all the better for their dc surely?

Cant stand people getting nursery places when they dont work , absolutely no need

Oh come on, you can't be this ignorant. You must know why some children with non working parents will need nursery provision.

Cant stand people getting nursery places when they dont work , absolutely no need

You do realise that nursery is early years education, not just childcare?

Besides, there are many reasons non-working parents might need childcare; parental illness or disability, widowed parent grieving, child protection concerns, caring responsibilities for other family members, and so on.

For all those moaning at me, I listed one reason. I didn't say it was the only reason.

I think in times like this it's better to keep judgements and opinions to ourselves as most people are just trying their best to get through in whichever way we can.
Well said !!
Unfortunately we have people posting who have no idea what they are talking about and making judgements .

smilebehappy123 My twins got free hours from 2 because they receive DLA. Two mornings a week. My only respite while caring for twins who need full time 1:1 support all the time. Half of those hours were spent working (believe me, I’d love to work more than 5 hours a week) the other half sleeping. Even if I’d spent them all sleeping it would be nowhere near enough.

GTF with your judgemental bullshit.

And remember - early years funding isn’t for the parents - it’s for the children, who benefit hugely from early education and targets those who may not otherwise be able to access it at all for various reasons.

@sinkgirl yes. Thank you I do.

Few I know of who formally come into the keyworker classification but who have been furloughed or are working for home who've just demanded to be allowed to send their kids to school because "they pay their taxes etc etc" and are arsey enough not to back down who've got their way.

Funnily they're the ones posting on social media about how lockdown needs to be extended and how it's all a matter of perception if you have a shit time or not etc etc.

There are piss takers that walk among us.

@sunnystroll

*"SIL also is borderline neglectful. Not enough for the kids to be taken away unfortunately."

FFS, that's "unfortunate"? What do you think happens to kids who are "taken away"?*

In this case, taken to live with the dad or grandmother. SIL hits her children and lives with a heavy drug user. She also feeds them four days old cooked food (not frozen first or anything) and leaves them alone late at night to go out drinking. Why on earth do you assume that the kids are better off staying with her? Any time SS starts sniffing around she cleans up her act for a short period of time. But I genuinely believe that they would be better off in a home where they are properly cared for

@Smilebehappy123 you need to take the advice in your username instead of being such a curmudgeon.

Some children have additional safeguarding needs

I work in a school and the reasons are hugely varying but all valid. That is for the school and individual families to know not outsiders. The word vulnerable can cover many things.

I would generally assume that any child who is in school needs to be there. I am a key worker working full time from home, husband is self employed and doing every scrap of work he can find to keep his business going, so I'm also doing a significant chunk of the childcare. I'm exhausted. But my children don't NEED to be in school so we keep them at home. Every key worker I know is doing this. We are all juggling to relieve pressure on schools. Therefore I don't bother worrying why other kids are in school, it's non of my business

@SunnyStroll Actually*@SunnyStroll* Actually it is! I spoke to the Dep for E today and that is the test being used for kids other than those children of key workers. In other words, vulnerable children. Are they safe at home? No? Then they need to be in school

@hannah1992 Unless her child has an EHCP then she cannot just make the decision to send her child to school. The school have to justify their numbers of children and there is very strict criteria for those who aren't children of key workers.

It's not right and it's not fair, especially considering that for key workers children, it only takes one parent to be doing one shift a week shelf stacking to be classed as a key worker, but there you go!

I know all of this as I am on the verge of a nervous breakdown with my Autistic child and I spoke to the headteacher today (along with the Dep for Education) and BEGGED & BEGGED for them to help me as along with my health issues and my daughter's behaviour due to the lack of routine, I don't know what I'm going to do....

The headteacher refused and the DforE correlated her response that despite a diagnosis of autism, she doesn't qualify to attend school during lockdown as she doesn't have an EHCP!

@havenDilemma she does have an EHCP, however, it is still optional to send your child if they have one.

Also the rules for the schools round here are if both parents are key workers then you can send your child but if only one parent is a key worker you cant

@HavenDilemma I’m so sorry. Given the disgraceful EHCP process, it’s ridiculous for them to argue that all children who are vulnerable due to disabilities will have an EHCP.

The guidance says
Children and young people who are otherwise vulnerable
Children and young people who have been assessed as otherwise vulnerable by education providers or local authorities (including children’s social care services), and who are therefore in need of continued education provision.

This might include children on the edge of care, in alternative provision or young carers, or others, at the education provider and/or local authority’s discretion.

Expectations on attendance
^Educational settings should use their discretion to encourage the attendance of children and young people that they – or other local services, such as local authorities or the police – feel would be safer by attending provision.*

So they absolutely can help you if they decide it’s needed. Have you contacted your local authority.

Hi I've read this thread and there are other reasons for a child being offered a place at school. Vulnerable DOES NOT MEAN NEGLECT OR IN HARMS WAY etc, it could merely be they are on the free school meals register or are a single parent family. I know 2 children of separate families that were offered a place on this basis but declined the offer graciously as they would prefer to keep their children st home. It by no means constitutes they are not from a happy cared safe home environment!