Student Nurse currently out in practice-should we be pulled out

[NurseMyPurse]

Just wondering if there are any other student nurses on here currently on placement in the NHS? I am a second year student on placement on a care of the elderly ward. I am loving my training but obviously these are very testing times. The university have advised anyone who falls in the at risk category to self isolate for 12 weeks but doing this will mean the rest of the year has to be deferred . I am proud to be on the front line helping patients but as we aren’t being paid to be there and a lot of my cohort feel we should be pulled out of placement. However as qualifying and getting our pins relies on us completing 2400 hours in practice. The other university in our city has today announced all healthcare students currently on placements have to come home and won’t be returning.

You will probably end up making up hours during the 'summer break', if things are sorted by then.

What "summer break"?

My DD gets only 3 weeks summer break from Uni. Placements can last 8 weeks.

Why don't students ask to become support assistants, get paid but still gain benefit of experience in the hospital (if they want to, obviously)

Scottish uni - first years got pulled and looking like my cohort (2nd year) won’t be going out in later in spring. Hours to be discussed: lots of encouragement to join bank to help as HCSW (I’m using my time to work full time hours).
3rd years are still out and it’s in discussion with NMC regarding what to do re: early qualify or other.

What "summer break"?My DD gets only 3 weeks summer break from Uni. Placements can last 8 weeks I got 6 weeks..

Why don't students ask to become support assistants, get paid but still gain benefit of experience in the hospital (if they want to, obviously) This would be because they already do enough.

March 18 cohort here. On theory block atm but all other cohorts have been pulled from placements. No real idea what's going to happen but hopefully our uni will start letting us know.

March 2019 cohort here, second year. I’ve been on placement this week, and I’m expected back until further notice. Some students getting sent home from various placements but most are working the hours. Don’t think this approach is sustainable for much longer with the amount of other universities pulling students though.

I got 6 weeks.

You get 6 WEEKS off in the summer??

How many weeks do you get off at Christmas and easter?

We only get 3 weeks off in the summer.

1st and 2nd years pulled out locally.

3rd years can stay in placement then go straight on to the nurse bank and be paid as Band 4 I think for their final placement so will accrue hours for registration and be paid. This is optional though.

Medical students have been pulled off clinical areas in my area
Student nurses should be too.

I’m a lecturer and our students are pulled. As a university we have a duty of care to our students. We also have a duty of care th patients and the nhs and increasing the staffing if not necessary for their care puts them at risk.

The issue is fairly soon we will be in a situation where the nhs probably will need even second year students to actually provide care on their own. But I don’t think we can insist students volunteer for this. Though some are arguing why shouldn’t they be made to carry on when nurses are having to put themselves at risk. Nurses though are being paid, students are paying!

Are you a lecturer on a Midwifery course Viva?

I keep thinking they are going to add months and months on to the end of our degree. But as our lecturers are telling us, they need an influx of nurses when we qualify when things are normal, let alone when there's a pandemic. So to not qualify nurses at the time they are supposed to is not good, twofold.

But we haven't even done one placement as third years yet.

The whole thing is an absolute shit show, through no fault of anyone's.

Our uni (Brighton) have been excellent and handling and communication throughout this.

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NMC update

@DontBiteTheBoobThatFeedsYou I saw that update and most of my cohort are confused.

I'm just hoping it means we get to do 60% less assignments, every cloud

information [[http://msg.unison.org.uk/files/amf_unison/project_93/Arrangements_for_each_year_COVID_19.pdf]]

msg.unison.org.uk/files/amf_unison/project_93/Arrangements_for_each_year_COVID_19.pdf

All our students have been sent home.

Any updates?

We are being asked to do 80% paid practical work on the wards at Band 3.

Then 20% theory.

We find out during a webinar at 11am how they plan on implementing it.
But September cohort ended with more questions than answers with theirs yesterday so I've no idea how this will pan out.

I’m in Australia and just about to do my prac hours. I’m in a regional town in NSW so the cases of Covid are just 28. Some universities have cancelled placement but not ours. We have a choice and I’m choosing to do it, there is no pressure from our lecturers at all. I’m really looking forward to it.

My DD ( second year) has been asked to work full time in hospital to tackle Virus.

@DontBiteTheBoobThatFeedsYou we were sent an email asking the same 80% paid at band 3 but then others have been told actually we're not needed here so they won't pay us. Very confusing. Nobody knows what's happening.

We haven’t had an email yet but we are expecting to be asked to do 80% placement 20% theory. The 80% would be paid for. There hasn’t been any talk of what the alternative will be for people who don’t want to do it. I don’t want to do it. It is not what I signed up for and honestly I feel like I’d be a hindrance more than anything. I am willing to do my bit and have signed up to be a volunteer. However I’m not sure if we will really have a choice. We are due back out on placement in June. Our written exam is going online, our osce exam is cancelled and they’re look at ways to get it completed. Our assignments are still due but we have been given a 2 weeks extension. We will see what they say but i REALLY don’t want to be out in practice 80% of the time

Forgot to say, every healthcare student from our uni was pulled from placement the Friday before lockdown was announced.

We've been quite plainly told if we don't do the 80/20 we will have to defer (except first years). I can't defer again I already had a year out for maternity I need to get this done. I don't know how we're expected to make it work without using family for childcare though, no childcare facility near me has provisions for a primary child and a baby from 6 in the morning until goodness knows when I actually clock off or DH finishes work at night.

I'm expecting a massive shortage in nurses, midwives and other HCP in the next few years.

Exactly, I’m a single parent and whilst I have a lot of family support and once I am qualified I won’t have to worry about childcare, during this lock down there’s no one! His school is taking key workers children but it’s only open 9-3 so no good, there are no other previsions.. and I 100% get this is totally unprecedented and they need all the help they can get but this isn’t what I signed up for.