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What would you like your child to learn to cook?

56 replies

pinkrocker · 06/03/2020 20:19

I teach food technology and textiles and I love my job!
I'm genuinely interested in your thoughts here.
Which foods would you like your child to learn to cook? Are there any particular skills you think they should know up to age 13?
Which sewing skills would you like them to learn?
I've asked my classes and they've so far said they'd like to bake cakes and make cushions Smile
I'm thinking of updating my planning so your feedback would be great.

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Heatherg71 · 06/03/2020 20:34

Ooo, I could write such a long list! Mine isn't quite school age yet, but I'm really hoping that he comes across teachers like you in his school life.
Things that would be life skills;
How to combine flavours.
The importance of not wasting food.
Knife skills.
How to make basics from scratch, eg pasta sauce, pesto, (meat & veg) shepherds/cottage pie, macaroni cheese etc AND how to get a wide variety of veg into each dish.
Confidence in reading recipes and trying new ingredients.

Too much? Wink

pinkrocker · 06/03/2020 20:39

Perfect! Thank you so much.
I like the not wasting food one, I can do a lot with that (I hope) I like all of your suggestions Smile

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Aroundtheworldin80moves · 06/03/2020 20:46

Skills like meat handling, knife skills, veg prep, how to use things like graters and tin openers, how to tell if food is off, oven safety, making a decent cup of tea or coffee, how to wash up and load a dishwasher, how to clean the surfaces and hob/oven. How to budget. Use of leftovers. What washing labels mean

(Itß all stuff I'm teaching at home, but as back up for those who don't learn).

And portion sizes.

pinkrocker · 06/03/2020 21:00

Thank you!

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katmarie · 06/03/2020 21:11

For what to sew, I would suggest the following:

Replace a lost button
Repair a small tear
Sew on a name tag/fabric badge
Hem/shorten a pair of trouser

Cooking wise, I think everyone should be able to do the following:

Recognise fresh v stale/off/overripe ingredients
Understand measures, weights and conversions, eg Fahrenheit to Celsius
Read, understand and execute a recipe
Combine elements to make a whole meal
Understand basic nutrition enough to be able to plan a reasonably healthy weekly menu
Know how to take care of your equipment and clean up after yourself
Peel and chop an onion, pepper, garlic, potato, carrot etc
Cook a steak medium rare
Roast a chicken
Make a salad
Bake a simple cake
Cook a nice dinner for friends/family

That seems like a lot, but those are the skills I rely on to feed myself and my family every day.

SarahAndQuack · 06/03/2020 21:23

I've love it if someone had taught me, properly, how to use a sewing machine. I realise there's an issue with models becoming obsolete, but I wish I'd have the confidence, and the understanding of it.

Would be great also to learn a simple pattern - eg., making a tote bag - in terms of cutting the pieces and so on.

I remember being really insulted and fed up with school cookery lessons. Partly it was because I could already cook and was a snotty brat about it, but also because we were taught in a very artificial way. We had to do a recipe step by step, never multi-tasking, never washing up as we went along. The recipe was always part of a very specific, end-stopped requirement - so one week it'd be the creaming method for cakes, another week it'd be vegetarian, another week a diet for a diabetic.

I would rather children learned how to make basic, cheap dishes - so, costing ingredients, but also thinking about avoiding waste and/or using leftovers. Maybe omelette, risotto, some kind of baked pasta dish, soup?

Definitely agree that basic skills like making a white sauce/ creaming method/ learning to sweat veg without burning are good to teach.

@katmarie, what you list sounds to me very sensible for a 13 year old, and not like a lot at all.

TorysSuckRevokeArticle50 · 06/03/2020 21:33

Real life skills!

I remember my GCSE food tech as being a 2 year waste of time. I learnt how to make bread from a packet mix and then use a computer programme to analyse the nutritional content of a variety of fillings. I then picked a filling, made a sandwich, took loads of photos, designed some packaging and a label and put it all 8n an A3 portfolio. 2 years to learn how to make a sandwich!

I think they should learn

Types of cooking - roast, boil, steam, fry.....
Basic rules so they don't poison themselves - white meat shouldn't be pink in the middle, red meat can be

Basic recipes and then how to adapt them - a basic sponge cake, roast meat, stir fry, how to prepare veg, making a sauce base then adding different flavours, pastry, yeast dough....

Sewing
How to add darts to a too big top, raise/fix a hem, sew on a button, shorten curtains or re attach a curtain tape, repair a split seam or patch a hole, turn a pair of old jeans into a skirt/bag/shorts to reuse rather than buy new.

ILikeyourHairyHands · 06/03/2020 21:36

Yes, definitely small repairs for sewing, I've taught my 13 YO DS how to sew buttons on and repair holes, darning would be a good skill too, I've saved many a jumper with a bit of darning but I think it's a skill that's going by the wayside with cheap disposable fashion. How to pick up a stich and repair a more delicate garment, or take up a hem and replace a zip. All really useful skills that would be beneficial as we try to move away from a disposable mindset.

Foodwise, how to menu-plan sensibly so that all the odds and sods get used, stock making, using small amounts of meat to add flavour and depth to a dish. How to store or utilise leftovers, just useful info about how to run an efficient kitchen that makes delicious food with little waste.

I teach my children these things and it's really useful and satisfying knowledge to have.

TorysSuckRevokeArticle50 · 06/03/2020 21:36

My mum showed me her home etc book once feom the 70s.

The final project they had to plan out the tim8ngs and then deliver

A washed and ironed tablecloth
3 course meal
Served on a correctly set table
All dishes and utensils washed and out away

They were graded on whether they met the time limit and the quality of the work.

Rumtopf · 06/03/2020 21:40

My daughter learnt knife skills, how to bone out a chicken, bake bread, make cakes and cook some basic meals.
She also learnt how to sew on a button, take up a pair of trousers or the hem on a skirt and repair clothing. Oh and she made a beautiful fabric notice board for the kitchen for one Mother's Day.

TellMeItsNotTrue · 06/03/2020 21:44

Soup to use all the odds and ends from the fridge - easy enough when you know how, quick enough for a school lesson but a good life skill because it saves waste and basically makes a meal out of nothing

Proper meals like shepards pie, chilli, curry, bolognese/pasta sauce - not using jars and adding as much veg as possible, also please make sure there are vegetarian options for ingredients like veggie mince speaking from experience of being told I could spend the lesson washing the meaty dishes instead while the class made beef burgers 😠

Jack Monroe carrot and kidney bean burgers are great, they are quick, cheap, easy and delicious and likely to be a hit with that age group. You could compare price per burger to buying fresh, frozen and takeaway burgers

Look at what proper meals are popular in dining room, if they enjoy eating it they will be more interested in learning to make it and making it again at home

Aroundtheworldin80moves · 06/03/2020 21:46

Where food comes from, and seasons
Allergy awareness
Minor first aid

FAQs · 06/03/2020 21:51

Making sauces would be a good idea. We are vegetarians and when my daughters class cooked meat as part of meal assessments she was told to sit on the side and make notes because the teacher wouldn’t allow her to adapt the recipes. In two years other than pasta, cake and a fruit salad they never actually made anything from scratch.

FAQs · 06/03/2020 21:51

Cross posted with @TellMeItsNotTrue we had the same experience!

Hello1290 · 06/03/2020 21:57

Vegetarian alternatives would be nice along with half a dozen nutritious but easy and fairly quick to make dishes.

user127819 · 06/03/2020 22:22

I did food tech about 10 years ago and am (in retrospect) disappointed that I never really learnt any real cooking. Lessons consisted of following a recipe, which is fine, but we were never taught the absolute basics of how to fry, boil, steam, bake, how to cook various meats, baking ratios, how to make soup, how to make sauces, how to construct a balanced meal. This left me, for several years, incapable of cooking anything more complex than eggs on toast without following a recipe, and incapable of improvising in the kitchen (and this is something I've noticed in others my age too). I made so many sponge cakes before I finally realised that the basic sponge recipe is 1:1:1:1 ratios of flour, sugar, butter and eggs, and that I did not need to follow a recipe every time. Fortunately recently I've got more interested in cooking and have am learning the basics, and starting to improvise, but I do feel let down by the "cooking" I was taught.

ILikeyourHairyHands · 06/03/2020 22:39

And yes, seasonal cooking, what's in season when and what to not eat out of season. Simple food becomes elevated and more special when eaten in season. For example, on many of the 'what's for dinner' threads on here asparagus is just a year-round side-veg, when really asparagus should only be eaten in season in the UK and celebrated as a dish in itself. Same for strawberries, rhubarb, stone-fruits, brassicas etc. And game, lamb, salmon, sea-trout and crustacea. Food is tastier, cheaper and more sustainable if eaten in season. That's what we should be teaching children. And modeling at home.

ILikeyourHairyHands · 06/03/2020 22:43

How old are you User, just out of interest? My school cookery lessons were pretty free-form. In retrospect I think I was pretty free-form in cookery lessons, I seem to remember being allowed to cook what I wanted past the age of about 13.

BarbaraofSeville · 06/03/2020 22:52

Planning, batch cooking and sustainability. If you start with a roast on Sunday, you should have leftovers to make a pie, pasta bake etc on Monday and a soup on Tuesday, even if they don't actually do all the cooking and just think about it theoretically, just get them away from any ideas about only eating the breast of a chicken and throwing the rest away.

Similar for vegetarian food. If you make a big bean and quorn chilli at the weekend, what to do with the leftovers (freeze for another day, put in wraps with cheese for enchiladas etc). Basically, how you can reduce cost, waste and effort by sensible use of leftovers.

Seasonality, budgeting, how own brand or cheaper supermarkets can be just as good as branded, use of leftovers, common sense WRT food storage and use by dates etc.

You see so many posts on here of the 'I left the chicken our of the fridge for half an hour, is it safe to eat' or 'lettuce with use by date of yesterday, will I poison everyone' type variety and I just think where the fuck did this level of risk adverseness and lack of common sense come from because it just seems to be so ridiculous.

The other thing I see so many parents of cooking students complain about (I'm not actually a parent myself but have friends and relatives with school age DC) is having to buy expensive niche ingredients which then go to waste, so encourage either sharing out of bring in ingredients or ask for money to pay for school supplies, so you don't have 30 students all buying lemongrass when 28 of them never use it at home and most of what they buy goes to waste.

Nose to tail eating for meat eaters, there's more to meat than chicken breasts and mince, maybe get them to try foods like pork cheeks or brisket (you'd probably have to cook it at home and bring it in) so they can see how delicious it is, cheap, and more sustainable as it uses all of the animal, not just prime cuts, while being massively cheaper and often more tasty.

AndWhatNext · 06/03/2020 22:53

Where food comes from.
Seasonal food.
Clean as you go and importance of hygiene.
Basic cake
White sauce and how to adapt it to use in different dishes.
Simple soup - how to use up veg
Adapting recipes, substituting - I think given this freedom at a younger age will give confidence in cooking

user127819 · 07/03/2020 00:16

@ILikeyourHairyHands Early twenties.

pinkrocker · 07/03/2020 00:38

Oh fab! All absolutely fantastic suggestions, thank you all very, very much! Smile
I cover food safety and hygiene every year, deliberately making a load of mistakes in order for them to excitedly tell me what I'm doing wrong, they love that!
I'm definitely repeating seasonality and sustainability (for example we made fruit crumble and veg soup in autumn term and talked about food miles for some fruit & veg, so I encouraged them to bring local ingredients, many of which came from Grandpa's allotment!)
I'm teaching all of mine (Y5-8) to use a sewing machine this term, and I definitely will incorporate mending clothes into next year's lessons as they can all move forward from this. (We're making very simple cushions this term)
They all have a sewing machine driving licence to pass!
I absolutely agree with you about sharing ingredients, I'm aware that some recipes call for unusual ingredients, I'll incorporate that too.
We have a parents evening soon, I would love the parents to come and see me and tell me what they'd like.
I also cover diet, allergies, food labelling, exercise and nutrition, however my classes mainly want to be hands-on and get stuck into practicals!
I have some written work in books, as well as photos of their dishes/makes and how they'd improve them, I think that's really important too (Ofsted like it, anyhow)
First aid is a great idea! In my initial lessons I taught how to cut and hold the fruit and veg along with the knife, it was really interesting to see how well they did.
Again, thanks all for your time in posting, much appreciated!

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mypoorfurbaby · 07/03/2020 00:50

Chop and peel safely.
I ran Scouts for years and the most 'accidents' we had were peeling and chopping veg on camp.
Parents just donMt teach children to use a knife safely.

Also how to use a tin opener- seriously it's so fusyrating how many can't figure one out.

mathanxiety · 07/03/2020 01:02

How to sharpen a knife.
How to avoid cross contamination.
Basic sauces from scratch.
Shortcrust pastry by hand.
Different ways to cook an egg.
Timing the cooking of all the elements of a complex dinner.
Budgeting (real life exercise - produce a dinner and dessert with X amount of money, suggest how to stretch leftovers to a second dinner).
Soda bread.
Terminology for cooking and baking - braise, baste, cream, saute, etc.
Order of operations when attacking a recipe.

Use and maintenance of a sewing machine.
Producing a piece of clothing using a pattern.
Upcycling clothing - this could be an income generator.
Making curtains, Roman shades, and cushion covers.
Crochet and knitting and how to read a pattern - another potential source of income.

BitterAndTwistedChoreDodger · 07/03/2020 01:09

The difference between best before and use by dates. How to use food past it's best but still edible.

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