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DottyandOtty · 04/03/2020 09:15

I’ve posted before about this problem and received great advice, but I do have a lot of doubt and wonder if I’ve been too extreme or harsh in my reaction. I’ll try and keep it brief.

Been with DH for over 10 years. Had a DD a couple of years ago. Over the years got some unfriendly vibes from his mum, but never enough to put my finger on or tell DH about.

So since pregnancy and having DD...

  • MIL didn’t respond to WhatsApp’s I sent in pregnancy. Didn’t ask or show concern despite the fact it looked likely DD would be born at 30 weeks at one point. No response to photos I posted to her of DD as newborn and DH.
  • when with DD she would take her into other rooms or stand in the corner of the room with her back to the room and frantically rock and jiggle crying DD. Lots of the usual ‘isn’t she cold?’ ‘She must be cold’ ‘why don’t you want her to be warm’ comments.
  • hesitate before giving DD back to me whenever asked and with a wounded expression
  • when DD was 6 weeks old she sent me a long text saying that family should be a priority over friends/other engagements and she doesn’t think it should ever be an issue if family want to visit (DH had told her she couldn’t visit with her friend on a specific date). She knows that my DM has issues with extended family, so this was a clear dig at that. She sent this text to DH to ‘proof read’ before sending to me (because she knew it was an unpleasant text I think?!). He gave the go ahead because he was exhausted by her, leading to an almighty argument between DH and I when he let slip that he’d already seen the message.
  • when DD was 2mo they came to visit and caused my DH a lot of upset when they complained about the surname we chose to give her (long story but basically double-barrelled and their surname comes second because it sounds better that way!)
  • on holiday with them last year she made a point of always handing DD back to me if she was passed to her. Very cold and unsmiling ‘go back to mummy’. Making a point that I apparently don’t want her to hold DD.
  • has complained to DH that she has only held DD x amount of times since she’s been born
  • on same holiday she completely blanked me when we met them in the morning. Greeted DH and DD and just ignored my presence.
  • she has left the room crying on 2 occasions when my DH has asked her to stop being so overbearing with DD
  • we spoke to them about how we were finding them overbearing and intense and specific things I had found hurtful. She listened to this conversation (mainly my DH and FIL doing the talking) with an icy expression and has never apologised or offered any insight into her behaviour.

So DH now ‘sees’ all of her behaviour and agreed that we could reduce contact a lot. They were a big negative impact on our life and have really damaged by experience of the first year of motherhood.

They live 3 hours away and so they’ve been coming to visit for day trips every couple of months. We don’t want them to stay overnight, but obviously the cost of trains/petrol and the journey time for them is excessive. They’re coming soon and MIL has said lots of times that they will arrive the night before and has insinuated that they can stay at ours. DH hasn’t risen to this, as he doesn’t want them in our space for that long. But can this relationship be maintained like this? I have barely seen her since the holiday last year because I make sure I’m out for the day when they visit. But she’s on best behaviour and buying gifts for us, saying she’s done a ‘grandparenting course’ and just generally making me doubt my whole experience.

So two questions really - 1. Is it time for me to get over it and start making some effort again? 2. If not, how do we manage the issue of contact if we don’t want overnight stays?

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DottyandOtty · 04/03/2020 09:18

Sorry it’s so long. Tried to be concise but it’s difficult when trying to give a full picture. There’s no one thing she’s done that’s awful, just lots of little things that make the relationship really difficult

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NagaisAce · 04/03/2020 09:19

I'm confused. You got what you wanted. Limited contact. and your DH is onboard. So why are you now doubting yourself.
Plus dont go on holiday with them again.

DottyandOtty · 04/03/2020 09:23

I guess I’ve spoken to people, like my DM, who have said that it’s obviously a situation you hope will heal. So because MIL is appearing to be ‘recovered’ from her poor behaviour should we be making moves towards increasing the nature and length of contact? Are we unnecessarily punishing them? Should we start to forgive and move on?

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DottyandOtty · 04/03/2020 13:37

Bump

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NagaisAce · 04/03/2020 13:37

I would not bother forgiving and getting back to previous contact. Keep it light and airy. It's for your husband to manage the relationship and he knows her best and he wants limited contact. You are trying to make her something she is not.
She may have changed but it's too soon to tell.

antisupermum · 04/03/2020 14:30

If you want to suggest it, they can stay in the area overnight - it doesn't need to be in your home. There is plenty hotels/ B&Bs in the world. Just don't rise to the insinuation of staying with you and let them know of inexpensive accommodation in the area. That allows them to stay a bit longer in the evening and potentially pop over in the morning again. That shows some flexibility to some extra time together but keeps boundaries in place as to how much you are willing to bend.

As @NagaisAce says; its really up to your husband to manage this relationship as its his mother. If he isn't pushing you to rebuild more contact then you should pay attention to that.

Userengage · 04/03/2020 18:16

I had something much like this with in-laws but it was mostly Fil acting like your Mil with regard to our DC and Mil turning on tears during discussions making H feel terrible. Relationship with Fil broke down and 10 years after birth of first DC, H and I are now separated. It’s not all their fault but they assisted in pulling us apart, plus H’s FOG. Couldn’t be happier that I don’t need to see them any more but it’s a shame our marriage didn’t last.

DottyandOtty · 05/03/2020 13:19

Thanks all. I guess I know it is the right thing to carry on but I’m feeling bad because of how it looks more than anything - not letting relatives stay after a long journey and being so controlled about contact. It all just feels so alien to me.

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DottyandOtty · 05/03/2020 13:22

That’s really sad @Userengage. The big silver lining to these experiences is that hopefully we will know how to put DIL/SIL at ease and support our children’s choices and marriages

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purpleboy · 05/03/2020 14:11

I'm a big believer in second chances, if she claims to of changed, give her the benefit of the doubt, if she hasn't changed then things go back to how they are and apart from 1 uncomfortable night you haven't lost anything, but if she has changed you could be presently surprised. But you obviously know the ins and outs so really only you can decide what's right for you.

Userengage · 05/03/2020 16:21

That’s exactly it @DottyandOtty, I feel they have done me a favour in teaching me how not to be a Mil. There’s a positive in every experience.

puds11 · 05/03/2020 16:27

I have no time for adults who behave like children. I’d make it very clear they aren’t staying with you and would maintain very reduced contact.

Stompythedinosaur · 05/03/2020 17:49

They don't sound like they add anything to your life. Can't you cut contact even further?

DottyandOtty · 05/03/2020 20:10

They don’t add anything to my life at all but I know DH hopes that they will change. His mum has always said how much she loves children and wants to be a grandmother so desperately. It seems cruel to take that away from someone. Her behaviour hasn’t been nice but I don’t think it’s enough to cut contact completely.

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Stompythedinosaur · 05/03/2020 20:15

You aren't taking anything away from her, she is doing it herself.

If your dh wants to see her he can, but in your situation I wouldn't put myself through it, nor would I trust her to be appropriate with children.

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