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Please help me find this children's book I read in the 80s..!

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mistressploppy · 20/02/2020 19:09

It's driving me NUTSGrin

Children’s book I read aged about nine. I think it was probably published in the 80s, but set in maybe the 50s/60s?

Main character is a girl aged about 11, I don’t think we know her name. Large family, poor, dad is a coal miner, they share beds, wash in a tin bath, brush teeth with soot and salt. She calls her parent Mam and Dad. She has brothers who tease her etc, she’s naughty. She has dance classes she hates and she calls the teacher ’Fancy Nancy’.

They get into trouble on ‘mischief night’ but I can’t remember what.

I think it might be a sequel or maybe it’s the same book, but she gets very ill (scarlet fever or tb, I don’t think we find out) and afterwards she’s sent to convalescence at an open air place in Kent ‘so she tells me where this place is and it turns out it’s in Kent. Hundreds of miles away..’

There are lots of other girls, characters - one’s always eating etc. There’s an incident where they’re supposed to be napping in the fresh air and they all roll over and the cots they’re on collapse. At some point a man comes with a magic lantern show.

Quotes (as accurate as I can remember them!)

‘Sharing a bed with my sister is like sharing with two feet full of razor blades’

‘If you .... I’ll shake you til you rattle like an empty tin can...’tin cans don’t rattle’....’they do if you kick them’

I might remember more as I continue racking my brain and gnashing my teeth, but if this triggers any memories for anyone I'd be so grateful, if only just to reassure myself that I'm not inventing things!!

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bookmum08 · 20/02/2020 19:15

I have a vague memory of a story with an open air hospital setting. By Somebody Grant I think. I am curious now too!

mistressploppy · 20/02/2020 19:18

YOU ABSOLUTE LEGEND!!! It's Knock and Wait, by Gwen Grant!!!

Omg I love Mumsnet and I love you, thank you!!! Grin

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mistressploppy · 20/02/2020 19:19

And the first one is called Private, Keep Out

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FrostyBamboo · 20/02/2020 19:21

Oh wow! I need to ask for book help, I think...

bookmum08 · 20/02/2020 19:23

I went to Google and yes it seems to be Gwen Grant.
Still in print too it seems.

NeverWasABrownie · 20/02/2020 19:27

Did this also feature the main character talking about the place she lived as "the vale of tears"? If so I have been trying to remember this series of books for YEARS. Thank you!!

longestlurkerever · 20/02/2020 19:31

Lucy Mangan talks about Private, Keep Out in her book about children's books. I had never heard of it. Sounds great though!

FrostyBamboo · 20/02/2020 19:32

I think I'll have to read it too! Started my own thread about a book now.

SallyLovesCheese · 20/02/2020 19:48

I knew exactly which book you were talking about, OP, but would never have remembered title or author! Thanks, Mumsnet!

(I'm assuming this is the one where a big pile of paper was bought for her? And she found a mine on the beach and was throwing stones at it? And got chilblains?)

AudTheDeepMinded · 20/02/2020 19:55

I loved those books. I might be misremembering but does a European refugee turn up at the door in one and as there are no grown ups in she concocts a meal for him with tinned salmon and grapefruit segments? I might have to track them down, I remember the front cover of one distinctly.

mistressploppy · 20/02/2020 20:19

Sally - yes yes yes! Omg that's right! She throws stones at the unexploded mine on the beach!

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SallyLovesCheese · 20/02/2020 20:36

Yay, fab! Loved these books as a child!

Yes, they go to the beach for the day and she manages to get the beach closed Grin

I think in the second one, at boarding school(?), she gets chilblains and they put some black stuff on then and tie her hands to the bed posts?!

tooyoungat40 · 21/02/2020 07:19

Enjoying reading this with my own children now.

Please help me find this children's book I read in the 80s..!
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