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About to be sacked - advice on lining my ducks up please

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Delorean · 17/02/2020 19:13

My job has just been listed on a job website. This company has form for advertising a position before telling the employee they’re going.

It’s definitely my job because we have allocated hours and this job is for the exact amount of hours I do.

I’ve been here less than 6 months, and in that time have seen health and safety issues ignored (I’ve taken photos of these H&S issues, which are significant enough to have the shop fined and my manager lose their job) and lack of help with my current grievance issue. So I’m not protected against unfair dismissal or similar as I’ve been here less than the required 2 years.

I’m already looking for new employment, but I’m wondering now if it’s better to resign voluntarily rather than have a CV showing I’ve been sacked?

It took 2 weeks from interview to offer stage when I accepted this job, and we have a 2 week notice period, so I’m assuming I’ll get my notice on Monday.

Any advice welcomed.

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SoloMummy · 17/02/2020 20:48

Are you in a probationary period?

DenimDrift · 17/02/2020 20:50

sacked for what?

Delorean · 17/02/2020 20:53

No, past probationary period.

Sacked I be,Ive because I wanted to escalate a grievance.

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LonginesPrime · 17/02/2020 21:20

I would think that you'd still have to explain to employers why you left a role without another to go to, so I suspect the question will come up at interview anyway.

If you say you left because you had a grievance, they might see you as flighty and unprofessional because you didn't follow through with the actual grievance procedure.

And I don't think it does you any favours to say you jumped before you were pushed, or that you saw your post advertised as it all sounds a bit drama-filled.

Personally, I'd wait and see what happens, and if you're dismissed you can explain why to interviewers. It sounds a lot more straightforward and there's less risk of your professional integrity being called into question.

glenhaggis · 17/02/2020 21:24

If you are sure I'd resign. I'd also enrol on a course of study with somebody like the OU so you've got a reason to have resigned.

senua · 17/02/2020 21:31

Don't resign. Don't make it easy for them! Besides, I presume that you still need the income.
When/if it happens, can you then go temping? (and then be a bit vague about dates - you've only been in the job less than 6 mths so you might be able to 'lose' it)

SoloMummy · 17/02/2020 21:32

Have you received any negative feedback?

Resigning looks better but also would mean that you could not claim any benefits for 3-6 months as have made yourself jobless.

Delorean · 17/02/2020 21:50

@SoloMummy there’s been a lot of denial via texts/group chat from the manager that I have any real grievance. But the manager has been shown to be lying about this issue as I have had to verify what they said about the issue with a third party.

I appreciate she is worried about the impact on her own job because the issue is one of negligence, but I have been warned against escalating the issue directly above her, so I’m really at a loss how to proceed.

There’s no real opportunity to make it an official grievance, the company has only quite literally a week or so ago implemented its Human Resources department. They’ve been trading for a decade without one so far.

I’m not looking to claim benefits at any point, temp work or living in savings is the option I always choose over signing at the Jobcentre.

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Palavah · 17/02/2020 22:12

You may have savings to live on but if you sign on you protect your NI contributions. Plus you never know how your circumstances might change.

Your CV won't show you were sacked. A reference might not show it - they tend to stick to very basic factual info.

What you are doing is whistleblowing - if you think you're going to be sacked anyway why wouldn't you escalate over your manager's head and flag that you're concerned you're being pushed out to keep it covered up. I doubt you'd (want to) keep your job ultimately but you might buy yourself some time until you get your new job.

goingoverground · 17/02/2020 22:19

Talk to ACAS. If it is a Health and Safety issue that you reported, then it possibly comes under the rules for whistleblowing. If you're sacked for whistleblowing it is unfair dismissal and the 2 year rule doesn't apply. I suspect they will give another reason if they do fire you though. That doesn't mean you wouldn't have a case though.

www.gov.uk/whistleblowing

Elieza · 17/02/2020 22:57

Forward all the emails that provide background or evidence of any wrongdoing to your personal email address so you can keep them.

Look on the acas website.

Sign on if you are entitled to benefits, why not!

Elieza · 17/02/2020 22:58

If they do fire you obv. They would surely need a reason?

Ellmau · 18/02/2020 00:40

I would report the H&S violations now, if you wait until you are fired it could look like sour grapes, and if they sack you after reporting it will look like victimisation of a whistle blower and you can sue for unfair dismissal.

cabbageking · 18/02/2020 01:11

Have you evidence that you or someone else reported these issues and that they were not acted on?

Do you know if the manager reported them and they were not acted on from above or that they just did not report them?

How much time has passed since the issues were reported?

If they have been given reasonable time to start correcting the issues I would forward the images upwards and ask that they be corrected.

You are ensuring the higher management know and can them decide if the problem lies with your manager or the company.

Then you can decide what you want to do. Look for another job, forward the images to H&S, raise a grievance etc.

Find out where the problem lies first.

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