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Downing Street refuses to confirm whether Boris Johnson thinks black people are mentally inferior to white people

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noblegiraffe · 17/02/2020 12:23

Couldn’t figure out which section to put this in because it seems to go beyond news and politics.

Andrew Sabisky, the new advisor hired by Dominic Cummings has written in the past that black people have a lower IQ than white people and that this accounts for black educational underachievement (rather than racism), failing to account for the white cultural bias of IQ tests.

Anyway, the Independent has asked a Number 10 spokesman at a briefing whether the Prime Minister backed these (and other) comments, and the spokesman refused to answer.

Refused to say ‘obviously the Prime Minister doesn’t believe that black people are mentally inferior to white people’.

WTF.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-andrew-sabisky-eugenics-contraception-dominic-cummings-downing-street-a9339296.html

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PerkingFaintly · 17/02/2020 18:47

From Rutherford's thread:

Dr Adam Rutherford
@AdamRutherford
I am all for scientifically minded peopel advising government. In fact I am all for scientists advising government. From this perspective, Sabisky and indeed Cummings look bewitched by science without doing the legwork 11/n

Instead this resembles the marshalling of misunderstood or specious science into a political ideology. The history here is important, because this process is exactly what happened at the birth of scientific racism and the birth of eugenics. 12/n

‘I’ll know my song well before I start singing’. If Cummings wants some real scientific advice, he should ask scientists. Cos it’s a hard rain's a-gonna fall 13/13

CommunistLegoBloc · 17/02/2020 19:49

I once knew this man. He is exactly like this in person, the embodiment of an internet troll. He is extremely stupid but in that awful combination thinking that he's not. I reported him to some higher ups because of how absolutely racist, homophobic and disablist he was but it was water off a duck's back. Unsurprised but horrified to see this.

longwayoff · 17/02/2020 20:13

Sabitsky's been booted out. Result.

PerkingFaintly · 17/02/2020 20:14

Thanks for confirming that, CommunistLegoBloc.

Too dim to know he's dim is exactly how he comes across in what I've read the past few days.

Glad if he's officially gone, but... it doesn't bode well that he was there in the first place.

Butterer · 17/02/2020 20:22

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BoreOfWhabylon · 17/02/2020 20:30

Andrew Sabisky (@AndrewSabisky) Tweeted: Hey all,
The media hysteria about my old stuff online is mad but I wanted to help HMG not be a distraction. Accordingly I've decided to resign as a contractor. I hope no.10 hires more ppl w/ good geopolitical forecasting track records & that media learn to stop selective quoting

twitter.com/AndrewSabisky/status/1229490716847460352?s=20

Sure you did, Andrew

PerkingFaintly · 17/02/2020 20:33

I'm reminded of Harriet's line in Gaudy Night, when she's being hassled by some eugenics society to debate on Should Genius Marry.

"The question's not likely to concern any of their members personally, so why do they bother?"

DateLoaf · 17/02/2020 21:03

Happy to see a scientist (Adam Rutherford) stepping up to correct this racist crap publicly from a scientific POV and to bring in the awful historical context. Have I missed the government actually making a statement to condemn these views though? Where is their statement against the disgustingly sexist forced contraception stuff too?

chomalungma · 17/02/2020 22:59

More coming out on this

Andrew Learmonth
@andrewlearmonth
Found Andrew Sabisky's old Reddit posts today. He acted as a something of an agony aunt to posters on the site’s popular sex forum, doling out advice on rape fantasies, incest, Christianity, and other subjects.

www.thenational.scot/news/18242099.andrew-sabisky-made-vile-claims-women-sex-reddit/

CommunistLegoBloc · 17/02/2020 23:05

He married whilst I knew him. I was genuinely worried for her. Even more so now I've read that Reddit stuff.

noblegiraffe · 17/02/2020 23:41

Wtf that stuff on Reddit advising raping your wife?

But how do they know it was him?

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noblegiraffe · 17/02/2020 23:46

Well, his twitter account seems not to be loading right now, which would suggest it was him.

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BurneyFanny · 18/02/2020 07:37

FFS if it's taking the press less than 24 hours to ferret this stuff out then why the FUCK isn't number 10 doing the same due diligence? Either they're stunningly incompetent or they genuinely don't think this shit matters. Neither is a good look.

NatyoCheese · 18/02/2020 07:49

It’s no secret Boris is racist. What’s more shocking is the amount of people that voted for such a disgraceful human being.

bingbangbing · 18/02/2020 07:50

Why was he hired? Does he have any qualifications?

I'd like to know where this 27 year old came from. I know about Cummings stupid advert but I don't believe for one minute that, that is how this twat was hired.

bingbangbing · 18/02/2020 07:51

We've got the government we deserve Smile

BeardedMum · 18/02/2020 07:55

If I expressed these views at work I would be straight out the door.

Defenestratethecat · 18/02/2020 08:24

Adam Rutherford’s ‘How to argue with a rascist’ was of R4 last week - really worth a listen. In fact it should be required listening for all Tory MPs (actually, all labour MPs too).

noblegiraffe · 18/02/2020 10:36

Why was he hired?

I think he’s an old chum of Cummings. Sabisky was on the education circuit a few years back (the race and IQ thing is from back then) and Cummings was Gove’s advisor as education secretary.

Weird to put out a job ad then just hire your mate.

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PerkingFaintly · 18/02/2020 10:50

Weird to put out a job ad then just hire your mate.

Same old same old.

In fact, that's true of so many people currently trying to cast themselves as radical, edgy, daring and new. They're just trotting out tired old tropes which had hairs on when I was growing up in the Dark Ages.

How stunning and brave of them that they're breaking the rules that fetter society and governance, and going where... oooooh thousands of Men have gone before.Hmm

bingbangbing · 18/02/2020 10:51

Jobs for the boys.

Why is stupid winning? Why?

GeraltOfRiviaIsMyCat · 18/02/2020 10:55

Racist, classist, misogynistic eugenics then. Oh joy. I’d say “what fresh he’ll is this?”, but there is nothing fresh nor new about this. Sickened but not surprised.

GoodShipSerenity · 18/02/2020 12:06

I also knew Sabisky but from an earlier period I think than @CommunistLegoBloc. I shared uni halls with him and was around when he split suddenly with a girlfriend and soon after got with his wife. I can confirm too, that how he is coming across is pretty true to him.

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