Has Brexit made you want to leave the UK?

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Just that really.

Or maybe you have already left and if so where have you gone?

If it were an option for me I would now leave .

This Ian McEwan article pretty much sums up the desolation that I feel.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/01/brexit-pointless-masochistic-ambition-history-done

@SilverySurfer lolz it’s not as simple as just waking up and leaving one day though is it - you need to work out a plan, Save up some money, find a new place to live, new job, sell all your possessions, uproot your family! I’m working on leaving but it’s not so straight forward - will take a bit of time. People like you telling us to just go off back to our own countries are exactly why we are all leaving tbh 😂

I'm not really sure how to reconcile with people to be honest. In real life I have maintained relationships with those I know voted leave on the surface but it has altered my opinion of them and I'm not sure it will ever go back to how it was. These particular family members voted leave because they were "fed up with having Germany in charge".

I'm still just really, really angry about it. I know it would be easier for a lot of people if those of us who feel very strongly about it just shut up and stopped mentioning it but I really think it's unrealistic to expect that given the strength of feeling.

Perhaps an inability to move on from what you consider to be a wrong decision concerning the EU will be the only thing I ever have in common with Jacob Rees-Mogg!

Yes, but my only viable alternative option is the US and I think things are worse there soooo...

Yes. Brexit makes me ashamed to be British.

Yes, I’ve wanted to leave since the referendum. I’ve worked abroad before (in the Netherlands) and as I don’t have EU citizenship, I’d like to go to Ireland this time.

I don’t belong here anymore, and I’m very worried about the proposed trade deal with the US. I don’t trust the Tories to safeguard the NHS, workers’ rights, food safety standards or environmental protections, and I think the damage will be done before the next election. I think a No Deal catastrophe is unlikely now, but I’m expecting a long, slow decline.

However, my parents are getting older, and my mother has had serious health problems in the last few years. She cries at the thought of DD and me leaving. Also, DD is very close to her grandparents. So, I feel stuck here and I do fear for DD’s future.

I’ve lived in another EU country, believe me, racism, and xenophobia are very much alive and kicking elsewhere. The UK is far from perfect but I missed it. Things are changing in other EU countries too.

Go, don't go, who cares.....not one of us is irreplaceable

@TARSCOUT I'm irreplaceable to my DM, as are my DC. Whether I leave the UK matters to someone. What you mean is it doesn't matter to you.

In practice I don't think it would be workable in my circumstances to move abroad but I'd like to move to Scotland. I'm currently in NI and just can't see how Brexit isn't going to be an utter shitshow for us.

I’m building more qualifications with an eye to leave when DD finishes school. That way it will be easier to get a good job without FOM. I can see the direction t he country is going in, and I don’t like it.

Sunshine, Why would whether you move or not matter to TARSCOUT, who is presumably someone you don’t know, a complete stranger on the internet?

@BritneyPeedOnALadybug of course they wouldn't care about me personally! What I mean is that it's disingenuous to suggest that as no-one is irreplaceable it doesn't matter if people stay or go. Everyone is someone's mother/child/sister/brother/friend. It will matter to the people that share those relationships.

Isn't there a Brexit section for this type of question?

Yes we've talked about it but with elderly relatives on both sides it's not really practical.
I'm really sad about it though. More about the fact that my kids will find it harder to leave than me. Scotland in the future would be a real possibility though if they became independent and joined the EU as we have family there.

When brexit kicked off my dad found out he was eligible for an Irish passport so got that- if he'd had it when I was born I could have got one and if had one when the kids were born they could have got one. I don't begrudge my dad for not knowing in the seventies what shit was coming this way though, after all we'd only just joined then! But makes me extra sad for not being able to get an EU passport for the kids.

Yep - we're going to stay in Sweden for a month as a test run, then move by the end of the year if we think it'll work. DH can get an office transfer, I'll need to find a new job but it's doable. We've been learning Swedish for the past two years because of Brexit.

Why would it?

I would love to. Unfortunately I am unable to work due to illness and disability, which means that I am reliant on sickness and disability benefits. The future is bloody scary for me at the moment.

Simple answer is yes.

More complicated is I'm staying put, in the hope reason prevails. Also
I live in Scotland.

I moved to Spain three years ago. It was only going to be temporary but we've made it work, and the UK is not a very tempting place to return to right now. DD is fluent in Spanish now, I've found a way to earn decent money, we have a lovely friends and a much bigger house than we could afford in the UK.

Right, I'm off for a walk along the beach in the sunshine.

Yes.
Currently looking at options but I think it will be very difficult. Have children doing GCSEs and only have British passports (worth considerably less than they were). Going to try to find somewhere in France in the summer and get residency there if possible but while staying in England until the children have finished school. I don't know/think it will be possible but I'm going to try.

On that point. Anyone any advice how to find somewhere very cheap to rent in France? Doesn't really matter where about and can be very basic, must sleep five?

@JustaScratch
Spain would do as well if you know anywhere? :)

Brexit makes me ashamed to be British.
Me too.

@KenDodd , I hope you are learning/already speak French or Spanish. I've lived abroad. It's very difficult if you don't speak the local language and are not economically self sufficient.

If Scotland gain independence, I'll move there.

UK hasn't enough highly skilled workers, from scientists to HCP's

The challenge for the UK is whether it can still attract workers who will have to jump through hoops and pay out large amounts of money to move here, the UK will be in competition with other places like Australia and Canada, where folk earn more money and have a better standard of living.
My DD before even qualifying has been offered work in Australia, with double the salary and less hours then the NHS would give her.... and she is not the only one on her course to be offered work around the world or private sector.