Oh gawd!

[SunbeamsOverhead]

Just watched this & think I may need to stop consuming milk.
I love milk 😢

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UcN7SGGoCNI

What do you reckon?

@MaJoady there is actually quite a lot of puss in milk. The cows are over milked & get really bad mastitis. Hence the puss. Then they are pumped full of antibiotics. Hence the antibiotic resistance we are now facing.
Watch the film. It's only a few minutes

You can give it up despite loving it, ppl give up smoking, drink, I’m sure you can manage without milk 😉🐄

The cows are over milked & get really bad mastitis. Hence the puss. Then they are pumped full of antibiotics. Hence the antibiotic resistance we are now facing.

That's why you drink organic.

@dangermouse
Organic is mostly a marketing ploy, it doesn’t change how your milk is sourced or the treatment of calves/cows
www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/organic-milk-video-footage-animal-cruelty-farm-equality-uk-a8508956.html%3famp

Of the alternative milks, which is the least crap for the environment? (I love a bowl of cereal!)

As the daughter of a parent who worked on a dairy farm and who was themselves the child of a farmer, I spent years as a child on a dairy farm working with cows, cows don't get milked if they are ill and the cows I grew up with were very rarely ill or had any pus!

Well, we are happy for human infants to drink pus, so.....

Of the alternative milks, which is the least crap for the environment? (I love a bowl of cereal!)

Apparently it's oat 'milk' that has the lowest carbon footprint.

@SunbeamsOverhead

Have you ever tried Veganuary?

I am (more or less) a lifelong vegetarian who has always wanted to go vegan but also have found it hard. I'm also wheat free for medical issues so I always felt that made it harder.

But I have done veganuary a few times now and then let the dairy free bit continue on for over a year once (i still ate eggs then) .

But this time round I'm not finding Veganuary a challenge at all so I think it may just become a way of life now.

My daughter's friend had a great way of thinking about it...she suggested to me years ago that instead of saying "I'm going to give up dairy altogether " then feeling like you've 'failed' if you eat cheese or chocolate then say to yourself " I am going to eat LESS dairy ". I liked that way of thinking.

So a plant based diet with some dairy if you are finding it hard to cut out completely, then you may find that it doesn't become an issue and you just naturally cut it out altogether.

*@SunbeamsOverhead, exactly, I was referring to *pooboobsleeprepeat's post... Cow's milk isn't pus either

There is pus in cows milk that you drink. There is a legal limit as to how many pus cells milk can contain to be sold.
Cows often get mastitis which causes infection- pus. If you’re buying organic then there’s actually more pus in that milk because they don’t get antibiotics for their very painful infections.

Open your eyes!

Milk is rank, but unfortunately the nicest alternatives (like oatly barista) are more than double the price. I use a mix of soya and basic oat "milks" in my coffee, and oat/coconut or soya in my porridge.
I love cheese, so it's impossible for me to be vegan!

As I like to ask anti-Vaxxers if they did indeed complete years of medical school to study immunology or do any other type of real scientific, peer reviewed research other than reading or watching anti-van websites, I also like to ask anti-dairy people if they have ever lived on, worked on or even visited a properly run farm. You pump and dump the milk from a cow with mastitis or it ruins the rest. It's not financially viable to try and use it. It's better to treat the cow and dump what she produces until she's recovered.
Also, I'd like to add while we're on the subject that for almost every food out there from ground cinnamon to white bread, there is a legally defined acceptable amount of unavoidable foreign contaminants in them all. Ground cinnamon can contain up to an average of 400 insect fragments per 50g and the UNited States FDA allows 1 rodent hair per 100g of chocolate. Yum!

Everything is gross. Milk is a liquid produced from a live animal. It's never going to be absolutely perfect.

Great video. I don't know how people can turn a blind eye to the cruelty in the dairy industry, imagine if it was dogs in that video instead!

@cushioncovers

Thank you! Oat it is then.

I agree with the bit by bit approach. I love cheese. So much! So I've told myself I can have it when we go on holiday at Easter and June. It makes it bearable, and in the meantime, I'll picture what the views are facing to produce it to help church my cravings (which are huge!!).

The thing is I don't "aspire" to be vegan. Have just had my doubts about milk for a while now.

Being veggie I eat lots of eggs, milk & cheese, yoghurt etc. I do buy organic as apparently its much better for you. I think it tastes better too.

Maybe it's a good idea to visit a dairy farm!

@Breathmiller i like that approach 👍