Would you leave a job you hate with benefits to a job you love without?

[NemophilistRebel]

I’ve been in my current job 4 years and I dread it.
The management is getting worse and I’ve seen it go from a lovely family company to something awfully corporate where everyone feels like just a number and unimportant.

However - it gives sick pay, death in service, health insurance, bonuses

I can move to a job that I will love with people I know and do the kind of job I’ve wanted to do.

But it doesn’t come with any benefits like sick pay or health insurance

Would I be silly to consider moving?

Presuming that you live in the UK so health insurance isn't vital, then I'd move as long as the salary is enough to manage. Have you got any savings to cover you if you're sick without sick pay? Life is too short to turn down an opportunity to be happier.

Small savings. Enough for maybe 2, maybe 3 months living.

In the UK so yes that would be fine and haven’t really used the private healthcare much other than for dental and glasses.

No advice, but I feel for you, OP. I'm just agonising about leaving a really comfortable package behind for the sake of my sanity. Trouble is, I think we adapt more and more to corrosive work environments until we lose track of what 'normal' is.

I would move to be in a job I am happy.

I did it - never regretted it. Just do it!!!! Now!!!

If you’re just using the healthcare for glasses etc, have you looked into something like HSF? You can do it without an employer buying in to it

If you can afford the move, then do it. How much sick pay do you actually need/use a year? I would be very much cross that bridge when you come to it., for the sake of being happy.

I would do it. No amount of benefits or salary is worth your mental health eventually going down the pan from working in a toxic environment. We're a long time working and you can't spend years feeling dread every morning when you wake up for work

I'd move in a heartbeat!

www.hsf.co.uk/family - I have this one and it covers me, my partner and our DD for £22.50 a month

I did exactly this last year. I didn't realise how much damage had been done to my confidence until I started the new job. I'm now "fixed" - I've got my mojo back, I have new skills and feel ready to move up again. I took a £5k pay cut, step down in status and lost a bonus in the process but it's worth it.

100% definitely yes

Probably not. I work somewhere with great benefits (PMI, great pension, death in service 10x salary, holiday trading, and more). I'd like something closer to home but would have to try and find something with similar benefits, at the very least id want something with PMI. If I had no kids or family I probably would.

I think it depends on how likely you are to use the benefits vs how much you hate the job...

Not including being more likely to need sick pay with days off for stress because of the shit job.

There’s also private companies that allow you to pay like insurance towards full pay when sick in any role. If that was the main reason for staying. Like death in service in a job you hate at 21 fit n healthy is much less of a benefit than for someone chronically ill n older, so less likely to move jobs/limited life expectancy with a chronic condition.

To be honest you’re less likely to get sick if you’re happy. I would do it, life’s too short to be miserable.

Do it! Why make a corporation rich on your misery? As long as the new job pays enough, then what is there to lose?

I would make the move. Your happiness is most important.

I did this after 14 years in one organisation. I moved to a dream job that, when I started, had no sick pay, no pension scheme and I took a drop in pay. I had to reconcile how I felt about all that, especially the pension as i'd had one since I was 22. Fortunately for me, my new organisation had a change in CEO who was horrified at our T&Cs and brought in generous sick pay and pension scheme, and I've had some pay rises since I started 4 years ago, so it's all worked out.

You might not have the same fortune as I did, but leaving a job I hated (didn't realise I hated it until I left!) was far more beneficial to me than all the generous benefits in the world!

Yes I would and I did.

I left a really well paid job with oodles of benefits, for a lower paid job with hardly any benefits, and couldn't be happier, I love my job now, it has lots of flexibility and more than enough work life balance and little stress

Sounds like the dilemma that Prince Harry has as well

Definitely leave a job you hate, it will drain you and affect your job performance which isn't a good place to be with a tough corporate culture. I left a very well paid job, took a while to settle elsewhere but the benefits have subsequently flowed.

Yes.

There would be a pay cut potentially for the new job but it’s affordable

And long term it could potentially be more beneficial in a flexibility type of way

It sounds like a pretty good bet, OP. Exciting!

If theres a pay cut I'd stay on a few more months and try to build up savings. Nothing is guaranteed and all jobs end up feeling rubbish ime, that's why people often move on every few years.

I would definitely plan to change from your current role soon though, sounds like time to move on.

Also wondered whether your name was Harry! Seriously, though, yes I would. Being happy matters.