Moving at short notice and hanging in notice to work

[ODFOkaren]

We have to move 200 miles away.

Unfortunately as we are at the mercy of landlords and estate agents, we aren’t going to have much notice.

We are going through referencing on a new place at the moment but it’s all been held up as the estate agent has been closed for two weeks over Xmas.

Dh is going up there tomorrow to see them in person, chase everything up etc.

Because it’s all up in the air I haven’t given notice at work. I’ve had rental properties fall through before and we can’t live where we are if I’m not working and living here we claim top up housing benefit which means that if I had given notice before now and was still living here while we were waiting to move or if it fell through it would have caused a lot of problems. (We won’t need any help when we do move as the rent is a quarter of the price where we are going).

I am supposed to give 4 weeks notice at work but we might get the go ahead tomorrow to move in two weeks.

Being so far away I can’t travel for work (it’s minimum wage care work, a weeks pay wouldn’t even cover the travel for one day).

I have no holiday let and I am off work sick this week and have been told I’ll be signed off for the next two (SSP as we don’t get sick pay where I work) as I’ve got pneumonia and other complications with it).

Hopefully will get a contract for the new house end of this week or beginning of next but I am loathe to hand in my notice before I have that in my hand just incase I leave my self unemployed.

I know I might have to take the hit and they can recoup their ‘costs’ by keeping my final Months pay - is this something they can do?

So £700 holiday pay is 2 full weeks roughly at minimum wage? When did you take the holiday? Do you work full time?
You don't have to work your notice period, but you have been advised several times what the consequences of that could be, if you're prepared to accept them then I guess you just don't go back to work as you're currently signed off sick.

Presumably you pay rent in advance, when is next one due?

I don't really understand what you're asking? You're planning to give notice when you have your rental agreement in place and don't intend to work your notice. Quite honestly it's highly unlikely that your employer will do anything about this apart from not providing a reference in future. You say you don't need this, so what advice are you actually looking for?

@Todaythiscouldbe I took the holiday in November, expecting to get paid for it in December. Which I didn’t.

@LIZS rent is 21st each month

@RaeCJ82 I’ve never left a job without working notice so I was wondering what’s the worst they could do given the circumstances of me moving across the country in a short space of time.

I’ve been reading up and some companies withold 4 weeks pay. Just looking for advice and experiences.

I wouldn’t leave them in the lurch (eve though they are an awful company for staff and residents) but I need to do what’s best for me.

Ok, so you get paid for work you did in November on December 20th? What did you actually get paid for in November and December?

Like is said, this is the tip of the iceberg. There’s more pressing issues as to why we need to move fast which are personal. But work is the one thing that has me stressing more than anything.

My December pay check was for the shifts I clocked in for in nov - The holiday pay was abscent.

My hours are in the pay slip - no mention of holiday pay.

My boss keeps saying she will sort it out. Head office are not dealing with payroll until 3rd.

Did you have 100 hours (approx) of holiday available? I'm assuming you don't work full time if you're paid for shifts a month in arrears. Or were you claiming banked holiday in bulk? Without knowing your terms of employment it's difficult to answer the holiday pay issue.

They can't withhold wages for time you have already worked. They're obviously not going to pay your notice though.

They've treated you appallingly, loyalty works both ways. Just stay on sick leave for the duration of your notice? Not ideal or admirable but come on, you're not even costing them anything and if you're feeling bad about the claiming SSP either don't claim it or donate it.

They could sue for breach of contract,but realistically this is highly unlikely if you're not hard to replace and you're not going taking niche skills to a competitor.

@Todaythiscouldbe the issue is, my manager forgot to put my holiday through to head office, so I didn’t get paid.

We clock in and out digitally for shifts but the managers have to manually input holiday into the system. If they forget, there is no pay.

I’m not the first person she’s done it to.

it’s hourly pay, not salaried.

I understand that, it's just that £700 is an awful lot of holiday pay on minimum wage. It's roughly half a year of full time holiday entitlement. Anyway, payroll can deal.with that on the 3rd if it was your managers mistake.
So, to answer your question, you don't have to work notice but deductions can be made from final salary for holiday taken in excess of entitlement etc. You are also extremely unlikely to get a reference.

Sorry, £700 was a mistake on my part - it’s around 500 they owe me, it was 6 days holiday, 12 hour shifts is about 99 a day.

I work 36 hours a week, my contract is for 24 but I do an extra shift.

£600 even. I’ve got a lot on my mind

When does the contract finish on your current tenancy? Can your dh move and you stay until the end of the tenancy while you serve some of your notice?

I had to take 36 hours (3 days) holiday a week to cover the 24 hours I’m contracted for. That took one of the managers over a week to work our so I don’t have a lot of faith in them.

Eh, why would you have to take 36 hours holiday to cover 24 contracted hours?

@BrokenWingomce we get a date for the new house we go back to the letting agent and LL here to work our a date for the end of the tenancy here. We’ve discussed it already, they’ve worked with out LL for years and they’ve said it would work out better for us to leave ASAP (he seems like hard work from the contact we’ve had with him).

So realistically, we are looking at a Day to load a van. There is also an issue with overlapping on the contracts as we claim housing benefit here.

It’s also best for me to go ASAP for a host of other reasons.