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Expected gcse results in year 7..

49 replies

Foxton20 · 21/12/2019 18:35

Hi,

My daughter (12) struggles abit with school. Nothing major but mostly maths. I have dyslexia and although she struggles with maths I wouldn’t say she has it. She’s currently doing morning classes to catch up on her basic skills.

She’s been very secretive with her bag. Practically rugby tackling me if I go near it. She went to a sleepover this evening and I found hidden in a back pocket her expected results.

They currently stand at mostly 4/5s. Roughly c’s on most subjects.

I worry she won’t be able to do what she wants to do. Do I push for a private tutor? 😩 Iv read that she might not even get to do a levels?!

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SexIsAProtectedCharacteristic · 21/12/2019 18:38

Oh my god!!!!! She's in year 7!

Leave the poor kid alone. The school should not be placing this kind of pressure on her at this age.

Besides which GCSE targets for current year 7 are at best guesswork and at worst total nonsense. Pay no attention to them OP.

Is she happy at school, are her teachers happy with her work is all you need to know at this stage honestly.

For reference I am a school data manager so I know of which I speak.

LewisFan · 21/12/2019 18:40

I'd see how she's going in Year 9.

My son was predicted 6/7/8s in Year 7; he then had 18 months mostly in and out of hospital/doctors in Year 10 and 11 and so did well considering, but got mostly 3/4.

He's gone to college and is redoing his maths alongside his Forensic Science course, and has a great future.

Predicted grades 4 years before the event are a little premature, IMO

Bunnybigears · 21/12/2019 18:40

If she struggles with school and is predicted c's I would say she is doing well. What does she want to do that you think she might not be able to?

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anxioussue · 21/12/2019 18:41

They seem like good grades for her age.

LaurieFairyCake · 21/12/2019 18:44

I'm sat next to a Deputy Head

He says if you're going to get a maths tutor then more efficient to do it now than wait til gcse - it's like a pension, the earlier you pay in the greater the reward

Waxonwaxoff0 · 21/12/2019 18:44

She's in Year 7, chill out.

Not doing A levels isn't the end of the world either, depending on her career choice.

RedskyAtnight · 21/12/2019 18:44

Are these expected results based on how she's actually performing or expected results based on how she did in SATS?

If the latter, there is nothing she can do about them.
If the former, there is no way on earth the school can sensibly predict this. My DC's school won't even do it for my child in Year 9 who's started the GCSE curriculum as they know it is just guesswork.

Foxton20 · 21/12/2019 18:45

Oh thank you, I’m not a pushy mum at all and she absolutely loves school!

She wants to be a Norland Nanny Xmas Blush

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Paddy1234 · 21/12/2019 18:46

I agree - get a maths tutor ASAP - invest early

HPandTheNeverEndingBedtime · 21/12/2019 18:49

Our target grades are given in year 7, it's all guesswork really off of their ks2 Sat's. Target of a 5 if they got under 100, a 6 if they got between 100-110 and a 7 if they got 110-120. There's no reason a child can't exceed these targets if they apply themselves.

Try GCSE bitesize or Khan academy before you fork out on a tutor.

TeenPlusTwenties · 21/12/2019 18:50

Any predictions in y7 have a very wide error margin.

Many children do not go on to do A levels, it isn't a disaster. There are BTECs and apprenticeships.

What did she get for her SATs?

A little and often can pay off well, so much better to tutor now for maths and/or English than be in a panic at y11. However there might be things you can do before tutoring, for example reviewing her homework with her, helping her revise for tests etc.

alislim · 21/12/2019 19:12

Hi
All students in every school are predicted and have their targets set from when they leave school in year 6.
Although this isn't written in stone. I would get the tutor now so it doesn't seem as stressful left much later.
Also, make sure that tutor teaches the maths methods in the same way as your child's school does.
Could just make it more confusing for her.

TeenPlusTwenties · 21/12/2019 19:19

make sure that tutor teaches the maths methods in the same way as your child's school does

I'd only half agree with that. (Though I would generally agree at primary level).

On the one hand I agree, as trying to learn 2 methods can be very confusing.

On the other hand, sometimes a pupil just doesn't 'get' a teacher's explanation and a tutor giving an alternative might just unlock things.

PurpleCrazyHorse · 21/12/2019 20:14

I'd also start the tutoring now as it's worth getting the basics well grounded so they can be built upon as time goes on. No point just shoring up in Y10 or Y11, better to build the foundations now. It will also seem normal and maybe easier to encourage your 12yo to participate than a 14yo. Plus, you might find her confidence grows with her understanding and she doesn't need ongoing tutoring.

anxioussue · 22/12/2019 09:17

We got a maths tutor in year 11 at dcs request, she got a B. Older, retired teacher who helped loads. It's worth doing in year 11 I think.

IceCreamAndCandyfloss · 22/12/2019 09:33

I’d worry more that she felt the need to protect her bag and it’s contents and that you went looking for it than her getting good pass marks of 4/5 in years to come. She obviously felt the need to hide them rather than share and the fact that she has to hide her bag is sad.

Foxton20 · 22/12/2019 09:53

She shouldn’t feel like she needs to hide it at all. We’ve never put pressure on her at all.

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PoptartPoptart · 22/12/2019 09:54

When DS was in year 7 he was predicated 3/4’s in his GCSE’s. He has dyspraxia and generally struggles with academic work.
He is now in year 10 and his GCSE predictions for year 11 have gone up to 6/7’s. My guess is that he could get higher still if he works hard.
Don’t worry too much op, there is a long way to go yet

LittleMissEngineer · 22/12/2019 10:01

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MaddieElla · 22/12/2019 10:03

My DD had similar predictions in year 7 and 8. Based on her SATS results which she passed but only just.

She got 11 GCSEs at grade 7-9. Pay no attention to predictions at this stage.

If she works hard and addresses learning gaps she will be totally fine. Try asking the school if they have A Level students who tutor the younger kids. That's what they do at DDs school. Less pressure than a tutor at this stage and more likely to engage.

fairynick · 22/12/2019 10:04

It’s years away!!! God the poor thing. In four or five years she could get a tutor, settle into school a bit better and come out with straight A’s or she could get in with the wrong crowd, start misbehaving and not completing work and fail them all. Kids are unpredictable, take no notice and throw the paper in the bin. Even if she does achieve all Cs that’s something to be celebrated, she will have passed them all!

Spotty528 · 22/12/2019 10:06

They’re nothing wrong with c grades and she can still go into Nannying/childcare.

AlunWynsKnee · 22/12/2019 10:13

Dd's school give a predicted grade that I think is related to SATs plus their own testing and then indicate whether they're on track to meet that grade. Quite how they come to a predicted grade for music, PE or Art based on the SATs is something I don't understand.
So if the prediction is based on SATs you need to see how she's doing as time goes on.

BeyondMyWits · 22/12/2019 10:18

It's Christmas, the school holidays, and you are worried your child is predicted to pass all her subjects.

This does say why she is hiding the results. Nothing like a disappointed mum to make you feel all warm and Christmassy.

(my mum was professionally disappointed, so never got to see my report card til I had to get it signed, shortened the time I had to tolerate the "looks")

Seeline · 22/12/2019 10:22

I'm more concerned about the fact that you have dyslexia but you don't think she has.

Has she been tested? That would be my first move before worrying about tutors.

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