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Any Agatha Christie fans about?

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wineoclockthanks · 16/12/2019 19:57

I read them all avidly about 40 years ago and am rediscovering them via Charity shops atm.

One of my favourites was about a group of people living in a shared house, possibly a student house and there were letters written in green ink. I've had a google but can't find the name of the book. Any ideas please?

No spoilers please because I can only remember the murderer in a few and don't want to spoil the rest.

OP posts:
PrivateSpidey · 19/12/2019 21:53

Yes you'll have to tune
in Court. I definitely will!

There's another Poirot film (Ken Bran version) coming out I think - is it Death on the Nile?? It was heavily hinted at at the end of Murder on the Orient Express. I quite enjoyed KB's Poirot. Also the scenery etc was fantastic.

Sorry if this has already been mentioned - slightly sleep deprived at the mo!

tobee · 19/12/2019 23:19

Despite what was found in there, I'm very envious of Dolly Bantry/Joanna Lumley's library PrivateSpidey. And the rest of Gossington Hall for that matter! Grin

PrivateSpidey · 19/12/2019 23:40

Oh yes, me too tobee Smile Although she did move out of the hall to the lodge after Arthur died iirc. Although I daresay the lodge was pretty comfortable too!

I think that's very well done in Body in the Library, her motivation for finding out whodunnit is to protect Arthur - she (Dolly) genuinely loves him, it v sweet.

Now may I ask - what does Miss Marple live off? I know Raymond pays for her holidays and so forth, and the maids she has are mostly being "trained up" and so probably aren't paid much. And she probably lives quite simply. But she does have that lovely cottage! Perhaps she inherited it or bought it with inheritance money? I'm sure she doesn't make any money from her crime solving (which she should!! I daresay Poirot is usually paid for his consultations?!).

fedup21 · 19/12/2019 23:44

But when you've run out of Christie's, what can you do?

I love anything detectivey!

Jonathan Creek
Strike
Jackson Brodie
Death in Paradise
Scooby Doo Grin

Squigean · 20/12/2019 00:08

Not sure what she lives off. Don't know too much about her past do we? Was she a nurse during the war, or was that made up in a TV episode?

PrivateSpidey · 20/12/2019 00:12

I'm not sure Squigean. But you're right, there isn't really any info on her past is there?! Hmm...

BluebellsareBlue · 20/12/2019 00:13

Love love LOVE Agatha!! I've read them all and watched them all! I love Conan Doyle too!!

NoodlesMcGee · 20/12/2019 02:59

@ShatnersWig and @Dowser - your description of Sunday afternoon crumpets and an Agatha Christie adaption is blissful - and making me very, very homesick.

I am a huge Christie fan and currently living in hot and humid SE Asia - missing cold Blighty and seeing Poirot / Marple on the TV very much!

Bowerbird5 · 20/12/2019 03:04

I loved them and read all of them when I was about 14/15. My cousin and I sat out in trees or hammocks reading them.

I've just had a lovely two night stay at the Old Swan Hotel in Harrogate where she said when she went missing. They had the details in the hall.

Dhalandchips · 20/12/2019 03:12

I thought I'd imagined Tommy and Tuppence! Obviously not. I read everything she did except those ones. They were a bit pants.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 20/12/2019 06:20

Yes, Cat Among the Pigeons is set in a school. My parents had a copy when I was growing up, along with Dead Man's Folly and Hickory Dickory Dock, so they were amongst the earliest Christies I read.

ShatnersWig · 20/12/2019 07:55

There is not much back story for Miss M in Christie books. We know that as she gets more fluffy (the later books) nephew Raymond seems to be very generous (if I recall he pays for her trip to the Caribbean). I've always assumed that she inherited a certain amount from her parents but we do know she trained maids so that must have brought in some little income. Of course, Jason Rafiel gave her £20k in Nemesis which in 1971 was a particularly large sum of money and Miss M had visions of partridges and marron glaces, so she certainly wasn't well off. That sum would have seen her through until the end I suspect although she would have been something like 110 in Nemesis!

plominoagain · 20/12/2019 09:27

How have I missed this thread ! Massive massive fan since my early teens , when I borrowed a copy of a friend’s Halloween Party , and I was hooked . Now I buy almost every copy of her book that I see in a charity shop , because I’ve read them so many times that my mine fall apart. I collect her first editions as well .

I’ve always wondered if there were elements of Christie in Ariadne Oliver , when she describes seeing say , a person on a bus who catches her imagination and then turning them into a figure who starts of a book .

ShatnersWig · 20/12/2019 09:31

plom Ariadne Oliver is Christie's version of herself. Both very fond of eating apples, both created a foreign detective the public adored but became a bit of a sod to write about etc

Squigean · 20/12/2019 10:26

Miss Marple was apparently influenced by Christie's grandmother.

www.agathachristie.com/characters/miss-marple#about

Squigean · 20/12/2019 10:27

Oh that's interesting @ShatnersWig!

YogaDrone · 20/12/2019 10:49

The first AC I read was Mrs McGinty's Dead. I remember that I was 11 and had to take a book from the school library and couldn't chose. I remembered that my mum like AC so I thought that would do. I loved it and a few days later went back for "The Mysterious Affair at Styles" as I thought I should read Poirot in order.

I have definitely found my sisters here - I love anything murder mystery based too Grin DS seems to be similarly afflicted and I'm enjoying re-watching things like Poirot with him. He also seems to like "Murder She Wrote" and can happily ignore the 1980's fashions and hairstyles Grin

I would have liked to see Miss M and Mr Raphiel team up again too PrivateSpidey I love that Nemesis for this hard boiled business tycoon was an old lady in a fluffy pink cardi Grin

ShatnersWig · 20/12/2019 11:04

I have definitely found my sisters here

Do you mind? How very dare you! Grin

Nemesis was my favourite Hickson. They had to do a bit of work to it, as it does ramble a touch as a book, but not overly and it was all very fitting. In the novel, someone is killed on the tour by the murderer pushing a boulder down on them; in the Hickson, they push a statue on them in a library - which works superbly and fits both victim and murderer perfectly. Everyone is superb in that, particularly the Bradbury-Scotts and Miss Temple, while Liz Fraser performs a stunning monologue as Nora Brent/Broad's mother. I often think that had Christie written Nemesis 20 years earlier, it would have been one of her very best. The themes and characters and ideas are very intriguing.

fedup21 · 20/12/2019 11:50

Ok, question for you...

If you had to pick your one favourite Christie, what would it be?! You’re allowed a book AND a separate televised film if they differ!

I think I’d have

Book-Sleeping Murder
Film-Death on the Nile (Ustinov)

TheNoodlesIncident · 20/12/2019 11:52

My mum had a whole bookshelf of Agatha Christies, so I started reading them at about 10 or 11. I love that they are readable from a relatively young age and still have vocabulary expanding words (like Sergeant Battle being "stolid" - I used to wonder what that was, assumed it was similar to solid and it was years before one day I thought of checking up Blush. I loved Evil Under The Sun and Five Little Pigs for their fabulous hot summer feel, especially the "holiday camp" atmosphere of Evil.

I remember AG said that she felt Poirot was wrong in The Hollow, and it would have been a better story without him. It's still a great story but I think she was probably right on that one.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 20/12/2019 12:38

Ariadne Oliver very definitely meant to be AC, in some ways, anyway. AC reveals in her autobiography (I think) that she ate oranges by the bagful and she makes Ariadne do the same with apples.

Training maids - this wasn't a money-making venture. It meant Miss Marple employed untrained girls, probably straight from school, and paid them a pittance because while they were with her they learned what they were supposed to do. Then they moved on to a better job and she replaced them with another 14yo.

I assumed she lived on the income from an inheritance, either dividends and interest on inherited shares/other assets, or an annuity bought with the inherited capital, having inherited her parents' house. She never mentions having any brothers or sisters so maybe they all died before her. Her nephew becomes a successful author, so may have had a bit of money coming in to help his old Aunt Jane.

In the real world, someone like Miss Marple would have been in dire straits after WW2 because higher rates of taxation and inflation would have left her without enough to manage on. She'd probably have had to sell the cottage and move into some sort of residential home.

I can't remember now whether she still has a live in maid after WW2, or whether she has a daily woman/charlady. That would be realistic. In the books it's often phrased as difficulty finding any member of the uppity working classes willing to do domestic work, now they've all got ideas above their station about doing office or shop work, or earning a much better wage from factory work. But in reality the middle classes would have struggled to pay for live in domestic servants even if they could find anyone willing to do the work. Hence the au pair in A Murder is Announced.

AC started writing as a very young woman and lived for a very long time. In middle age and even more so when she was elderly she reflected ruefully that if she'd known how long she'd have been writing about Poirot and Miss Marple she'd have made them both a lot younger to start with. Grin

ShatnersWig · 20/12/2019 12:49

Gasp0de No, it was definitely apples for Agatha, not oranges.

By the time of Mirror Crack'd, Miss M had Cherry who came in on a daily basis and of course the formidable Miss Knight as a housekeeper/companion. Miss K was dispensed with and Cherry and her husband moved into the apartment over the old stables behind the cottage and became Miss M's full time help.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 20/12/2019 13:33

My favourite Agatha Christie book is "The Mysterious Mr Quinn", a collection of short stories with Mr Satterthwaite as the 'tec' who is more of a Watson than Sherlock.

Favourite adaptation is "Sad Cypress", also like "Pale Horse". The recent re-write of "Murder on the Orient Express" left me cold. I loved "Death on the Nile"'s update, my husband prefers the original. I really liked Peter Ustinov as Poirot but, there could never be anybody to really hold a candle to David Suchet. He's so brilliant at it that I (most unfairly) think he sounds ridiculous when he's not being Poirot.

I don't like the Anthony Andrews 'Sparkling Cyanide' but I'm quite charmed by the one with Pauline Collins and Oliver Davies.

As for the Marple's the best one is Geraldine McEwan I think but the one that I love best is Margaret Rutherford, foppish as she was.

Great thread OP... :)

Stockmarketup · 20/12/2019 13:53

My favourite AC book is And Then There Were None - probably because it was the first AC book I read when I was about 12/13 - my Nanna introduced me to them. That book is very closely followed by Evil Under The Sun.
I now have most of the AC books (not T&T) and have been replacing all my paperbacks with Planet hardback versions. However, I can’t bring myself to get rid of the paperbacks - it feels like sacrilege somehow, so they’re sat in bags cluttering up the garage 🙄

Squigean · 20/12/2019 13:55

I'm sure the girls she trained came from an orphanage. They were definitely young and she trained then so they could get a good placement. Wasnt it A Pocketful of Rye in which she investigated the murder of a former maid?