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Lots of questions re allergy, washing powder, UTIs, should I see someone etc

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tectonicplates · 13/12/2019 16:03

TLDR version: I don't know whether I should go to a walk-in centre this evening for a possible UTI and "allergic" reaction that most people can't see.

I used to wash all my clothes in Ecover Zero liquid until about a year ago when they changed their ingredients and scared off half their customers. For several months I went through a washing powder crisis where we tried every "hypoallergenic" washing powder under the sun, most of which were awful and made me itch and burn all over. Believe me I have tried them all. I even ended up with a UTI through all the irritation.

I can't use Eco Eggs as they contain bicarbonate of soda which is an irritant. I also went to see an allergy specialist who said he couldn't do patch testing on me as I only get itching and burning, and patch testing only works for rashes, eczema or things which are visible to other people, so I don't have a "true allergy".

We eventually settled on Surcare powder as the best of a bad lot. But it's not perfect, we still have to be very careful to use only a tiny bit and also do an extra rinse cycle, and even then it still makes me itch a bit sometimes, and some fabrics are affected more than others.

Recently I've worn a couple of jumpers that haven't been worn or washed for about a year, since last winter. They were fine for wearing, but now that I've washed them in Surcare all hell has broken loose and the jumper is making me burn very badly. I don't understand why but I feel like some kind of chemical reaction has gone on between the two detergents. Or it might be because they both contain a small amount of wool, and all my other knitwear is made of cotton or acrylic.

But yesterday I was burning all over, even though I'd just sniffed the jumper and not even put it on. I even got a small rash on my forehead which seems to have gone now but I can still feel it. I took an antihistamine tablet but it only worked a little bit, which is unusual. I even had to change the bedding. And I think I might have a small UTI but I'm not sure.

Is there any point in going to a walk in centre this evening for a possible UTI and allergic reaction even though they can't see it? I still feel like my face is burning. My GP is not interested - she just tells me to take antihistamine and doesn't look at the long term problem.

Also, how can I stop this from happening in the long run with clothes I wear again after not having worn them for ages? The reaction makes no sense. Surely my old clothes should be okay but they cause a problem as soon as I've washed them in Surcare, which doesn't happen with my other clothes that I wear regularly.

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SleepWarrior · 13/12/2019 16:16

Is it possible that you've spent such a long time being sensitive to washing powder and worrying about it that your brain jumps ahead now and feels symptoms before they're even there?

I know that sounds patronising, and I really don't mean it that way. I have asthma and eczema, and I know that it's quite common with these sort of long standing conditions for a psychosomatic element to become mixed up with it all. For example, I get triggered badly by hay and horses. I could swear sometimes that just seeing a hay barn being stirred up on TV, or a bunch of horses being brushed makes me wheeze.

Maybe you're right though, and I'm certainly not dismissing your concerns, just wondering really. More practically speaking, perhaps your old clothes should go through a few just water cycles before adding in the Surcare?

It doesn't sound like you could have actually got a uti from the jumper yesterday though. From what you've said, I think I'd avoid the walk in and perhaps pursue the broader issue with a new gp.

tectonicplates · 13/12/2019 16:23

I do see your point, and it didn't come across as patronising. But there's something different going on this time. The problem had quietened down over the past few months and now it's suddenly come back with an old-new piece of clothing. And antihistamine tablets usually work but it's not quite working this time.

Also I really did have a UTI last time. They tested it and found bacteria and it can see caused by all sorts of irritations. I've also ended up with thrush a couple of times because of this on going problem.

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tectonicplates · 13/12/2019 16:26

Also I was thinking of giving the jumper to a charity shop but it doesn't seem fair as it would surely just pass on the problem to someone else. I've certainly experienced problems myself with buying second hand clothes. But my DH thinks it's fine to donate it as most other people won't feel a problem?

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Meckity1 · 13/12/2019 18:15

I know someone who is genuinely, as confirmed by doctor, allergic to calamine. Poor kid is allergic to everything. The only washing powder they can use is Ariel. I think it may be the powder. Perhaps you could borrow a scoop of powder from someone and see how it works for you.

There may also be a reaction between the previous detergent and Surcare which exacerbates the issue. A few extra washes in white vinegar may fix that. Vinegar will act to remove any detergent still in the fabric.

Hope you feel better soon.

tectonicplates · 13/12/2019 18:47

There may also be a reaction between the previous detergent and Surcare which exacerbates the issue. A few extra washes in white vinegar may fix that. Vinegar will act to remove any detergent still in the fabric.

Yes, this is exactly what I think happened. The trouble is that I have lots of jumpers - a am I going to have to wash all of them five times just in case?

I've washed my clothes in vinegar before and all my clothes ended up stinking of vinegar. I actually had to throw away one item as I couldn't get rid of the smell.

I honestly feel like I'm covered in some kind of awful sludge that won't go away.

It doesn't help that I'm with this awful new GP as my old one left the practice.

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tectonicplates · 14/12/2019 08:12

I still think I might have a UTI.

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Meckity1 · 14/12/2019 09:47

@tectonicplates I use vinegar as a laundry softener in every wash. I don't have fabric softener in the house. My clothes never smell of vinegar. How much powder/softener (because softener can be a problem) do you use?

I haven't measured the powder (Ariel) or vinegar for years, but I use maybe a couple of tablespoons of each.

I've not had the issue, but I know that many on here have reported having issues with thrush after using scented sanpro. Could the scent of things be causing issues.

You may have a UTI unconnected with the clothes.

tectonicplates · 14/12/2019 09:57

I've never used fabric softener, and I don't use scented sanitary towels.

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tectonicplates · 14/12/2019 11:40

My eyes are burning!

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Ginfordinner · 14/12/2019 11:50

Have you done a service wash to clean your machine? It could be an accumulation of mould spores caused by not using biological powder.

DD's eczema disappeared when I started using Ariel. It wasn't the powder that caused the issue, but washing with laundry liquids at low temperatures.

tectonicplates · 14/12/2019 11:57

Not for a while, but the the point is I've been okay for a while now and the problem suddenly started back up again when I washed this jumper a couple of days ago and then handed it when I took it out of the machine, and touched it to my face when I smelled it. All my other clothes are fine. It's just the jumper that caused this and now I'm burning all over and my usual antihistamines tablets don't seem to be working. There is something about a chemical reaction in the jumper that has caused this.

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