I want to use my vote

[Pinkyyy]

Hoping some of you may have some good advice on how to get my head around who to vote for. I've tried and tried to understand politics but I just can't seem to get it. I think I prefer conservative but I'm not even sure what I'm basing that on.

There are so many different names of people who I've heard, like Corbin, Boris etc but I genuinely don't know what they stand for. Am I right in thinking I either need to choose labour or conservative?

Maybe I'm a little too late and am a helpless case. My family were never interested and have never bothered to vote but I really feel like I should use mine as every vote counts.

Thank you @Gilead. I'm obviously not going to vote/not vote for a particular party just because someone tells me to. I genuinely am trying to get myself into politics for the first time.

Sadly I'm not on Facebook/Instagram so can't look at those suggestions, but thank you.

Please vote.
Please decide who you are going to vote for and do it.
Please respect other people's right to do the same.

There you go, ButterflyofFreedom. Fixed that for you.

I think @Bimbleberries point about irreversible stuff (Brexit) is a good one to bear in mind.

Ignore the spin, ignore the lies. Stick to the facts.

2010-2019 this is where we are:
1000 sure start centres closed
780 libraries closed
700 football pitches closed
Food bank use up 2400%
Homelessness up 1000%
Rough sleeping up 1200%
Bedroom tax caused mass evictions
Evictions running at record highs
35% of kids in UK live in poverty
Student fees up 300%
Student debt has risen 150%
Eradication of education maintenance allowance
National debt has risen from £850billion to £2.25trillion
GDP fallen to 0.1%
Manufacturing in recession
Construction in recession
25-30% cuts to all government departments
Half if councils facing effective bankruptcy
25,000 less police
20,000 less prison officers
10,000 less border police
10,000 less medical professionals
10,000 less firefighters
25,000 less beds for mental illness
25% cuts for our disabled community
80% cuts to mobility allowance
40% of working households have no savings
60% of working households can only survive 2 months without a wage.
Increase of 50% in hate crimes
Increase of knife crime by 150%
Council home building down 90%
200k social homes lost since 2010
Zero starter homes built despite tory flagship project
1 million families on council home waiting list
36,000 teachers have left reaching
And we now have more billionaires in the UK than ever before.

OP I would ask you very respectfully NOT to vote for the Conservatives 🙏

Thanks SingingLily, well fixed!

OP of course you should vote for who you want and I don't expect you or anyone else to vote for a party just because I said so.

I feel you should vote for policies not people and think about the 'many not be few' as well as the long term impacts. Hence I'll be voting Labour.

ilovetinsel well said.

Though slowandwild will not like that you've asked people not to vote Conservative - that's frowned upon apparently

slowandwild

Is 100% correct, I had a political life when young and have met many MP’s of all political hues.

They are all self interested and it doesn’t matter which party they represent. When the expenses scandal came to light in 2009 both main parties had plenty of guilty culprits. All you can is read through all of their fake promises and decide which fake promises appeals the most to you. The chances of agreeing with anyone’s manifesto 100% is close to zero.

Every time I stride in to the voting booth and make my mark knowing all this and despising them all I get through it by thinking about the women who fought for me to get the vote.

@ilovetinsel that list is very shocking but I'm trying to focus on the future and which promises o believe will be kept.

It seems most people on here are labour supporters and I'm trying not to be swayed, I just took another online on uk.isidewith.com and I got the highest percentage for Brexit party, followed closely by conservative. I'm still trying to figure things out.

20,000 less prison officers

Oh dear, Illovetinsel. Still peddling that nonsense even though it's been discredited on another thread?

I left the Prison Service in March 2010. There were around 22,000 of us then.

If another 20,000 prison officers had left between 2010 and 2019 as tinsel's list claims, that would leave just under 2000 officers to staff 117 prisons.

I'll save you doing the maths. That's roughly 15 officers per prison. That wouldn't even cover the night shift.

Who, then, is staffing those 117 prisons during the day? Volunteers? Random strangers pulled in off the street who have a few hours to spare.

Seriously?

There are not 20,000 fewer prison officers since the Conservatives took over. And here's another spoiler. The biggest exodus of prison officers in recent times took place on 31 March 2010, the day I left.

The Prime Minister was Gordon Brown.

Why is brexit so much more important to you @Pinkyyy ?

@ButterflyOfFreedom really couldn't give a hoot what @SlowAndWild thinks

ilovetinsel no, me neither!

I come out as Lib Dem in the surveys but our Lib Dem has stood aside for a (popular) Independent candidate. I’ll vote for him based on his stance on Brexit (he’s remain).

Are labour genuinely promising a referendum on Brexit? I disagree with their spending policies and promising the moon on a stick and I hate Corbyn. So I don’t think I can vote for them. Feel quite happy with my independent vote too. Shame the Lib Dem’s aren’t more viable.

@ilovetinsel I have always thought that leaving the EU was the best choice for us, I don't know why, I just do really

Have you seen the latest?

Do some people really want this man as PM??

He just continually refuses to face scrutiny.

He's a coward not a leader.

www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-hides-fridge-general-election-piers-morgan-good-morning-britain-live-tv-a9241631.html%3famp

I have always thought that leaving the EU was the best choice for us, I don't know why, I just do really

I'm very apprehensive about the result tomorrow. I can't get my head round having a Marxist Prime Minister. It doesn't help that those papers that Corbyn was waving around the other day about the NHS were allegedly sourced with the help of Russia.

I can't get my head round having a Marxist Prime Minister.

No Marxists are standing, so you're in luck.

were allegedly sourced with the help of Russia.

Allegedly being the key word. If it was true, then the Conservatives would have published the report on Russian interference. For some reason they don't want to!

@ilovetinsel your loss

Pinkyyy, Brexit has big consequences for everyone, almost all negative. You might want to research it before deciding it's for the best.

Brexit is the main irreversible issue.

If you don't really know why you want to leave, why you like the idea of no deal and all the problems that will come with that and/or the idea of the 10+ further years of trying to negotiate the trade deals for every aspect of the economy, then why push so hard for it now? Why not leave it as the status quo until some time in the future when there might be a better-thought-out plan for it all? Either reforming the EU from within, or a leaving plan that is put to the people, without the hectic deadlines of this one?

Many of the Brexit supporters who were against immigration from Europe will likely get their wish anyway, as it's clear to most of them that the UK is an intolerant, unfriendly place for them, and numbers have already dropped vastly. Why compound things by adding economic suicide to the mix? So many good things like the NHS will be affected by Brexit too. We will struggle to get enough workers from outside the EU to emigrate here to be nurses, doctors, and care workers, as there aren't enough from the UK, and European ones won't want to come here now. The contracts for medicines are already a problem, as many companies don't want to bother with the complicated trade deals that are going to be required, and there are already shortages. More and more will be negotiated when there are trade deals with the US.

If you can articulate to yourself more clearly why you want all of this, what it is about the Brexit party that appeals to you, then you can make sure that this is the only way to get it, and that you will be happy with all the unintended consequences as well. After the referendum, lots of people who were voting to leave because they just thought things would be better then, were quite unhappy to find out some of the things that would be lost, and the level of difficulties in so many areas that would ensue. I think you'd want to be really really certain that you are prepared to put up with that level of economic disaster to get what you are wanting by leaving. Do you really want an American style health care system? It's a really scary thought to some people who can't afford private health care.

Corbyn was being interviewed on TV recently, and didn't deny being a Marxist.

I just love the irony of posters telling OP to ignore the lies and listing stats and then being rude to posters who point out that they are inaccurate.

Dont trust Boris @Pinkyyy
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-delay-boris-johnson-deal-general-election-eu-barnier-leak-deadline-a9242346.html?fbclid=IwAR00dTPWRypYFf4vOsIrR39bLGjFgpSacuAB6GUdyYwaDATItYEK-GfSkH4

Politics. Just brings out the best in people.